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'You can work your arse off and still not be able to pay bills': your best comments today

Cartoon of traffic on a motorway with a sign saying next junction for a pay rise - but the junction has a road closed sign
Ben Jennings Guardian Opinion cartoon on what to expect in the new year. Illustration: Ben Jennings

Discussion today has focused on the continuing stagnation of wages, the story about a Russian satellite that went missing, and the sci-fi, fanstasy and horror films to look forward to in 2018.

To join in you can click on the links in the comments below to expand and add your thoughts. We’ll continue to highlight more comments worth reading as the day goes on.

Ben Jennings on economic prospects for 2018 – cartoon

There are many comments under Ben Jennings’s cartoon on why next year will be no different for those struggling to make ends meet.

‘Many of those who I meet who are in debt are not irresponsible people’

Without going into too many specifics my job does involve me getting involved with people in debt. You sit down with them & do an income & expenditure tally. All too often the income cannot meet the expenditure because they have got themselves into so much debt they can never ever catch up. These are not always irresponsible people. Some are. But many are not, I would say the majority that I meet anyway. These are hard working people who thought they would give themselves a hand to tide things over until things got better. Then things didn’t get better.

The fact is that these days work doesn’t pay unless you are lucky as I am. You can work your fucking arse off & still be left not able to pay the bills.
kristinezkochanski

Russian satellite lost after being set to launch from wrong spaceport

The Soyuz-2.1b rocket carrying Russia’s Meteor-M 2-1 weather satellite and other equipment lifts off from the launch pad at the Vostochny cosmodrome
The Soyuz-2.1b rocket carrying Russia’s Meteor-M 2-1 weather satellite and other equipment lifts off from the launch pad at the Vostochny cosmodrome. Photograph: Kirill Kudryavtsev/AFP/Getty Images

Readers have been sharing their views on space exploration after the Russian deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin said they lost a satellite due to “human error”.

‘Russia has been at the forefront of practical space technology’

The Russian space program is currently the only thing keeping the ISS in the sky and the only way of getting humans into space.

Laugh all you like, but since NASA funding got cut to ribbons after the shuttles kept exploding, Russia has been at the forefront of practical Space technology.
Cade

The most exciting sci-fi, fantasy and horror films of 2018

Natalie Portman examining the inside of a large crocodile's mouth while someone holds it open, and another woman looks on
Natalie Portman in Annhiliation - one of the films featured in our most exciting sci-fi, fantasy and horror films of 2018. Photograph: Alamy

Discussion under this article has mainly been about how the featured films don’t look as exciting as the authors suggest.

‘Unimaginative and regurgitated rubbish’

Oh God, what a bunch of boring rubbish. I’m a big SF and fantasy fan. I’ve read thousands of amazing novels. Why the hell can’t any of them be filmed instead of all this unimaginative and regurgitated rubbish from screenwriters who were never good enough to become authors? I don’t get it. I really don’t. I’m going back to Asian and French cinema, where they know how to tell great comedies, dramas and action films.
Do Good Be Good

Comments have been edited for length. This article will be updated throughout the day with some of the most interesting ways readers have been participating across the site.

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