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'Trump’s too thick to understand foreign power plays': your best comments today

Trump and Kim Jong Un
After a year of threats and diatribes, US president Donald Trump and third-generation North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un have agreed to meet face-to-face for talks about the North’s nuclear program. Photograph: Koji Sasahara/AP

An analysis of US president Donald Trump and the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un’s proposed meeting has dominated discussion among our readers today. Gary Younge’s opinion piece on the undemocratic nature of the EU and David Oyelowo’s thoughts on his new film role have also got people talking.

To join in the conversation you can click on the links in the comments below to expand and add your thoughts. We’ll continue to highlight more comments worth reading as the day goes on.

Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un believe they are winning – and the risks of that are epic

Donald Trump has accepted an invitation from the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, to hold an unprecedented summit meeting to discuss the future of the embattled regime’s nuclear and missile programme.

‘I am no fan of Mr Trump, but this really is a good idea’

I am no fan of Mr Trump, but this really is a good idea. Diplomacy needs to be the way forward. A very unusual move but impressive nonetheless. If they manage to make positive progress, that would be historic. I would like to be optimistic about this and can’t see why so many people think this meeting will be a bad idea.
f00l

‘Trump’s too thick to understand the intricacies of foreign power plays’

The orange moron doesn’t even know when he’s being played. Of course the North Koreans are happy to meet, their nuclear weapons program is is all but complete. What they want is an equal footing and will never surrender their arsenal, if anyone is ‘winning ‘ its Kim, Trumps too thick to understand the intricacies of foreign power plays and would consider the meeting a success based on the desert served.
mrsydney21

‘Even if Hillary was president the same thing would probably be happening’

I don’t think this is a Trump thing, more a time thing. Even if Hillary was president the same thing would probably be happening right now.

It seems clear to me that this was North Korea’s plan all along, their nuclear program probably isn’t as advanced as we might think but is merely a bargaining chip to end the South Korean-US annual military drills and ease sanctions.
Yorkshireman40

The shambles of Brexit diverts attention from the EU’s democratic deficit


Gary Young says the EU has seemed stable in the face of Britain’s petulance, but we must not forget its lack of democracy, writes Gary Younge.

EU Referendum voters at a polling station in a house in Rusholme, south Manchester, in
EU Referendum voters at a polling station in a house in Rusholme, south Manchester, in Photograph: Christopher Thomond for the Guardian


‘Why has the EU not mandated a second referendum on its own terms’

I am a little shocked that after the last two or three years of leaver mendacity that the Guardian’s best columnist is still buying into all their myths.

If the UK has no sovereignty how is it leaving? Why has the EU not mandated a second referendum on its own terms given that it must have this power?
matti90210

‘It is the UK that has a more concerning democratic deficit’

Considering that every Scottish voting area returned a majority remain in the EU vote, it is the UK that has a more concerning democratic deficit. We have our own government in Holyrood say the UK is violating our own citizens equality rights yet don’t have the authority to do anything.

We have trident in our country despite our government being opposed to it, we have a party leading in Westminster that our votes have no influence over and so on... so please, you can complain when the EU forces you to have nukes on the Thames and appoints a PM that goes against your country’s voting results.
cloud1234

David Oyelowo: ‘The Ryan Goslings get to break earlier than black actors do’

Actor David Oyelowo In new cartel caper Gringo, the British star of Selma brings his perspective to yet another character that wasn’t ‘written as black’ – just don’t ask him to play the best friend.

David Oyelowo and Lupita Nyong’o at the premiere of Gringo in Los Angeles this week.
David Oyelowo and Lupita Nyong’o at the premiere of Gringo in Los Angeles this week. Photograph: John Milne/Silverhub/REX/Shutterstock

‘It’s being going on for many years’

If you go to the National Theatre or RSC, you will see people playing roles which traditionally are a different ethnicity to that of the actor (such as an early 20th century Devon mother, played by an Asian actor), and sometimes of a different sex. It’s being going on for many years.

With more contemporary drama, there is very little reason why a role should be conceived as being black, white, or whatever. Neither does the creation of a black role have to come with a huge back story – they don’t have to demonstrate an “interesting interplay of race, class and colonialism”. That’s a bit like asking “where do you come from? ... No, I mean, really come from?”. The characters should be developed to meet the needs of the drama.
Tongariro1

‘Casting ethnic minority and women actors into empowering and inspirational characters means they lose out on loser roles’

This character, Harold seems to be an amiable but pathetic and frustrated loser. The current ethos of casting ethnic minority and women actors into empowering and inspirational characters means they loose out on loser roles. Eddie Murphy is big enough and comedic enough to play losers. Could you imagine black actors taking on a project like Midnight Cowboy?
loopine

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