Readers have been discussing a new report which says a no-deal Brexit would cost the EU €112bn (£99.5bn) and the UK, a bigger, economic output loss of £125bn by 2020.
Comment threads have also been busy with readers sharing of heartfelt tributes for Cranberries’ singer Dolores O’Riordan.
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No-deal Brexit would cost EU economy £100bn, report claims
‘All the EU will do is look at 65m now trapped on an island only the educated can leave’
Sigh.....cost them £100bn.
For about 5 minutes until all the other nations replace the trade lost with us with trade with each other & then they’ll also have what we do buy irrespective of 5 minute losses.
We on the other hand will never replace that £125bn, we need it. We cannot internally create £125bn of trade as the EU nations can by buying off one another what they stop buying from us.
They buy off us because it’s the way it works in the club & we’re in the club. Remove ourselves from the club the other 90% of the club will work with each other.
We are weak and we have weakened ourselves further no end being thick as mince and gullible as all those who answer the Nigerian Princesses emails looking for quick cash that sounds too good to be true.....and is.
themumbler
‘Britain as an Island nation may still have a romantic appeal’
With Norway making it clear that if the UK get similar terms without the commitments to comply by EU rules, they would want to renegotiate their deal with the EU, any concept of getting a good deal to avoid a cliff edge financial hard Brexit disaster is becoming ever more remote.
Britain as an Island nation may still have a romantic appeal, particularly to old codgers like me, but sometime in the next year and a half the harsh short and mid-term reality of Brexit to jobs and wages will break through the blather of politicians looking to their own political future rather than the well being of parents needing security to raise their families and young people, far off pension age like me, who need to make their way in this world.
David Thomson
‘The UK needs a deal, desperately’
Brexiters always tend t believe that they can blackmail the EU by threatening not to buy goods coming from the EU.
That’s as childish as the whole Brexit theatre. The UK simply depends on imports. From paper over timber over electricity to food. And it depends on imports which come in time at reasonable prices, there is no money left for any price increases.
So actually all the discussion is futile. The UK needs a deal. Desperately. It looks like Westminster knows this, at least by now. The typical Brexiter however is stuck fast in the 1950ties and shacked by his nationalism , no wonder they don’t get it or they just avoid facing the facts at all. Facts which won’t go away by keeping eyes closed.
Brexit is not going to be a success. And its not going to a catastrophe for the EU.
AlbertDreistein
Dolores O’Riordan: anguished 90s star whose voice lingers on
‘Fragile and inspired, driven yet delicate, she will be very sorely missed’
Awful news. Simply terrible. She was a truly unique and gifted artist in that she was one of the very few singers of whom it could be properly said that her voice was not just a voice, it was a veritable musical instrument.
Fragile and inspired, driven yet delicate, she will be very sorely missed and my thoughts go to her family and loved ones.
RIP Dolores, and thank you for so many wonderful moments and memories.
fripouille
‘I downloaded Linger and Dreams and the 18 year old version of myself’
I don’t ever do this, or at least I never admit to it, but today I downloaded Linger and Dreams and the 18 year old version of myself and I have been singing at the top of my voice in the living room all evening. Rest in peace.
grumel
‘The ethereal nature of her voice and ability to use it in ways that were unexpected’
Her musical legacy, as well as The Cranberries, goes beyond the time frame in which they came onto the scene.
The ethereal nature of her voice and ability to use it in ways that were unexpected made it more interesting than a lot of the naval gazing of their peers.
Her life ending prematurely doesn’t take away from that. Bless her soul. Hopefully she’s at peace now.
awaw1283
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