Does derby defeat show that Manchester City have binned off the Premier League? Should they?
That was the starting point for the inquest into City's loss to United in the new edition of our Talking City podcast.
the third loss this season against Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's side as a five-match winning run ended in limp fashion at Old Trafford despite the Blues dominating possession.
The post-match comments of Ilkay Gundogan, Aleks Zinchenko and Pep Guardiola giving their takes on the game were discussed as well as the importance of the absent Kevin De Bruyne and the impact of Phil Foden.
There was also a look ahead to the upcoming Premier League matches against Arsenal and Burnley with Mikel Arteta making his return to the Etihad for the first time since becoming Gunners boss, as well as the looming Champions League fixture with Real Madrid.
Listen to the views of Stuart Brennan and Simon Bajkowski in the podcast below, listen via Acast here , and join our Talking City Facebook group here .
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