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Rebecca Armitage, Lucia Stein and Lucy Sweeney

Prince Harry unleashed on his family in two big interviews. The palace tried to get an early look at one of them

Prince Harry says he wants to reconcile with his brother Prince William and his father King Charles but at the moment, he doesn't "recognise them as much as they probably don't recognise me".

The Duke of Sussex — who is fifth in line to the throne — is speaking out ahead of the release of his memoir, Spare.

The book details why he and his wife, Meghan Markle, decided to step back as working royals in 2020 and move to California.

For his big UK interview, Prince Harry chose Tom Bradby, an ITV journalist he has known for 20 years.

Bradby accompanied the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to Africa in 2019, during which he famously asked Meghan if she was OK.

"Thank you for asking, because not many people have asked if I'm OK," she responded as tears filled her eyes.

This time, Bradby has delved into Harry's complicated feelings for his father and brother, as well as his sister-in-law, Princess Kate and his stepmum, Queen Consort Camilla.

Over 90 minutes, the duke painted a picture of a toxic dynamic between his family and the British tabloids, who reported on their every move.

He said he had spent years suspecting his loved ones of leaking damaging stories against him to further their own agendas.

"We're talking about an antagonist, which is the British press, specifically the tabloids, who want to create as much conflict as possible," Harry says.

"The saddest part of that is certain members of my family and the people [who] work for them are complicit in that conflict."

That interview was followed by a shorter sit-down on 60 Minutes with American journalist Anderson Cooper, who described Prince Harry's upcoming memoir as a "stunning break with royal protocol".

"I think it's hard for anybody to imagine a family dynamic that is so Game of Thrones," Cooper tells Prince Harry.

"I don't watch Game of Thrones, but there's definitely dragons. And that's a third party which is the British press," he responded.

"So, ultimately, without the British press as part of this, we would probably still be a fairly dysfunctional family like a lot. But at the heart of it, there is a family, without question."

These were the biggest revelations from Harry's interviews.

Kate was 'sister he never had' … until she wasn't

Prince Harry says that Kate Middleton was a welcome addition to the family when she married his brother, Prince William.

The trio were close, and they often went to public engagements together, representing the monarchy's youthful future.

"I did a lot as the third wheel to them, which was fun at times, but also, I guess, slightly awkward at times as well," he says.

"I don't think they were ever expecting me to get into a relationship with someone like Meghan, who had a very successful career."

Harry said his brother and sister-in-law were huge fans of Meghan's TV show Suits, and he was hopeful that his new wife would be welcomed into the fold.

But despite being slightly starstruck when they first met, Harry felt that William and Kate never gave Meghan a chance because they viewed her as an outsider.

"There was a lot of stereotyping that was happening," he said.

"It felt to me as though that was causing a barrier to them welcoming her in: American actress, divorced, biracial."

Harry confirmed a rumour that has swirled for years in the British tabloids that Meghan and Kate had a disagreement in the lead-up to their 2018 wedding over Princess Charlotte's bridesmaid's dress.

However, he said, it was reported in the media that an aggressive Meghan made her future sister-in-law cry over her unreasonable demands.

"Why wasn't it corrected?" Harry said. 

"They were more than happy to put out statements for less volatile things. The palace still could have come out and said 'this never happened'."

He also said that, in a confrontation between the couples, Kate was so uneasy that she gripped the edge of a chair so tightly that her knuckles were white.

When Meghan described a moment of forgetfulness by Kate as "baby brain", an argument erupted.

"Kate tells Meg they're not close enough to talk that way, and William says, 'That's not what happens here in Britain'," Bradby recounted of the passage in Harry's memoir.

While the argument ended with a hug, the simmering tensions between the brothers would eventually boil over.

A beard fight with William and relationship between 'heir and spare'

Bradby put to Prince Harry that "the most heartbreaking" part of his memoir was how he depicted the breakdown of the relationship with his brother, Prince William.

Prince Harry said his mother had always gone to great lengths to nurture their bond, even dressing them the same to ensure they felt equal, but their sibling rivalry grew as they got older.

When Diana died, Harry said, he and William, "were on different trajectories, dealing with the same traumatic experience in different ways".

And, by the time they were adults, he said, William had "insisted on turning our brotherhood into some kind of private Olympiad".

This intense sibling rivalry would be ratcheted up further when Meghan joined the family.

Prince Harry said much of the way that his and his wife's relationship with Prince William and Kate played out was down to the "distorted narrative in the British press" about Meghan.

He says that, in several moments, his brother parroted this narrative in raising concerns about the relationship.

"It wasn't that he tried to dissuade me from marrying Meghan, but he aired some concerns early on and said, 'This is going to be really hard for you'. I still don't really understand that."

Prince Harry spoke in detail about one bizarre scuffle between the brothers over his decision to seek permission from the Queen to keep his beard for his own wedding.

The Queen was amenable, but in an argument he says went on for a week, his brother demanded he shave it off, in keeping with royal customs around dress code for formal events.

"This beard felt to me at the time like the new Harry, as almost like a shield for my anxiety … and I think William found it hard that other people told him to shave his off," he said.

Prince Harry also spoke about another altercation, revealed earlier this week in a leaked excerpt from the memoir, where he claimed William grabbed him by the collar and he knocked him to the floor.

"Me and William used to fight all the time, when we were kids. What was different here was this level of frustration.

"I talked [in the memoir] about the red mist that I had for so many years … I saw this red mist in him.

"I can pretty much guarantee that, if I wasn't in therapy, then I would have fought back, but I didn't."

The brotherly reflections in the book end with an interaction at Prince Philip's funeral in 2021.

Prince Harry writes that Prince William pleaded with him to look him in the eye, saying:

"Harold, you must listen to me. I just want you to be happy, Harold. I swear. I swear on Mummy's life."

Those last five words were "the secret code" the pair had used since they were boys, to be used only in times of extreme crisis.

"It stopped me cold. I didn't believe him. It is heartbreaking. This whole thing is incredibly sad, but there's a way out of it."

The death of their beloved mother, Princess Diana, in 1997, was an earthquake that shattered the lives of her sons.

Harry insisted on being driven through tunnel where Diana died

Prince Harry begins the memoir with the death of his mother — his earliest memory, he says, having blocked out much of what came before it.

He recalls the moment he was woken up by his father with the heartbreaking news: "Darling boy, Mummy's been in a car crash."

Prince Harry says that, when the decision was made for the boys to walk behind Princess Diana's coffin, he wouldn't let his brother go by himself, just as William wouldn't have let him do it by himself.

Years later, the brothers would make the same journey for their grandmother's funeral, but this time they reassured each other, "at least we know the way".

Prince Harry spoke at length about how long he struggled to accept his mother's death. 

"There was this weight on my chest for so many years. And I was never able to cry," he told 60 Minutes.

When he was about 20, he asked to see the secret government file on his mother's death, describing the photos of paparazzi cameras surrounding the wreck of the car with his mother's dead body inside.

"The idea that she'd been taken away and that William and I were now motherless, I couldn't understand," he recalled.

"I needed proof that she was in the car."

He revealed that he had continued to believe Diana might still be alive until he was 23, when he took a trip to Paris to travel through the Pont de l’Alma tunnel.

"I needed to take this journey, I needed to take this at the same speed," he told 60 Minutes.

He wrote about how the trip fundamentally changed his understanding of what happened to Diana.

"We zipped ahead to, whatever, the lip of the tunnel, the entrance, the bump that supposedly sent Mummy's Mercedes veering off course. But the lip was nothing. We barely felt it," he said in an excerpt of the book.

"I sat back quietly and I said, 'Is that all of it?' It's nothing. Just a straight tunnel. I always imagined the tunnel was some treacherous passageway, inherently dangerous.

"It was just a short, simple, no-frills tunnel. No reason anyone should ever die inside it."

While Prince Harry says he doesn't see any point in opening up another inquiry, he thinks there are a lot of things that are still unexplained.

He recounted how, once he was older and able to drive, he would have "paparazzi literally jump on the bonnet of the car, and I physically couldn't see anything".

"When you've actually experienced the same thing which you assume your mother's driver was experiencing at the time, then it's really hard to understand how some people have come away with the conclusions of that night," he told Bradby.

"And that the people [who] were predominantly responsible for it all got away with it."

Charles told Harry 'I should have got you help years ago'

While Prince William featured heavily in the interview, King Charles was only briefly mentioned.

Bradby observed that the "deep love" between father and son was a clear message in the book, although Prince Harry conceded his father was not always able to be there for him in the way that he needed.

He wrote about how Diana's sudden death presented an immense challenge for Charles, who "had always given an air of being not quite ready for parenthood", but was "never made for that".

"Pa didn't hug me. He wasn't great at showing emotions under normal circumstances," he told Cooper on 60 Minutes.

Harry said that it wasn't until he was writing the book — as a father to two children of his own — that he understood the difficulty that Charles must have faced.

"The compassion that I have for him as a parent … I never, ever want to be in that position," he told Bradby.

"I don't want history to repeat itself. I do not want to be a single dad. I certainly don't want my children to have a life without a mother or a father."

Prince Harry was asked if he still believed in the monarch, responding that he did. But he was unsure about whether he would have a part to play in his father's future.

In the book, the Duke of Sussex recalls a conversation he had with his father at Highgrove over dinner and Charles's guilt over Harry's treatment.

"Pa and I spoke at some length about what I'd been suffering, I gave him the particulars, told him story after story," Harry says in Spare.

"Towards the end of the meal, he looked down at his plate and said softly: 'I suppose it's my fault, I should have gotten you the help you needed years ago'."

Harry's interests were sacrificed on Camilla's 'PR altar'

The Duke of Sussex denied the suggestion that he had been scathing towards any one member of his family in his memoir, "especially not my stepmother".

He says Camilla began to "play the long game" in her relationship with his father and leaked stories about the family to the media as part of a campaign to "rehabilitate her image".

Prince Harry also said he and William begged his father not to marry Camilla, but Charles made the decision to go ahead with it anyway.

"We asked him not to get married. He chose to, and that's his decision, but the two of them are very happy together," he says.

In his interview with Cooper, Harry said he hoped that the wedding would make Camilla less "dangerous" to him.

"Maybe she'd be less dangerous if she was happy," Cooper quotes from Harry's memoir.

What made her dangerous, according to Harry, was the "connections that she was forging within the British press".

"There was open willingness on both sides to trade information" he said.

"With her on the way to being Queen Consort, there were going to be bodies left in the street because of that."

In Spare, Prince Harry claims he thought Camilla had "sacrificed me on her personal PR altar".

When asked by Bradby about the passage, Prince Harry said there "are things that have happened that have been incredibly hurtful".

"No institution is immune from accountability or taking responsibility."

Palace wanted to see the 60 Minutes interview

In another part of his interview with 60 Minutes, Prince Harry shed more light on the events leading up to the Queen's death last year.

He said he was not invited on the plane that took his family members to Balmoral to visit his grandmother on the day she died.

"I asked my brother, I said, 'What are your plans, how are you and Kate getting up there?'" Prince Harry told Cooper.

"And then, a couple of hours later, all of the family members that live in the Windsor and Ascot area were jumping on a plane together, a plane with 12, 14, maybe 16 seats."

"I was not invited".

After the interview wrapped, Anderson Cooper also revealed an interesting tidbit about the palace's response.

He said the program had reached out to representatives for comment but they "demanded" 60 Minutes provide them with the interview before it aired.

"[It's] something we never do," Cooper added.

'The door is always open' ahead of coronation

Prince Harry said while he hoped his brother and father would read the book, he doesn't believe they will.

When asked by Cooper if he was in touch with Prince William and King Charles III, Prince Harry said he hadn't heard from them "in a while".

However, he was open about his hopes for reconciliation.

He says there is a "100 per cent" chance of reunion, although he didn't confirm if he was going to attend his father's coronation on May 6.

"There's a lot that can happen between now and then. But the door is always open," he said.

"The ball is in their court."

He also insisted there were two sides to the story, and said his decision to tell his account has been "a painful process, cathartic at times".

"I've put in a lot of work and effort into resolving my own trauma … and I think other people within my family could do with that support as well."

He said, he wasn't stuck in the past, and had made peace with a lot of what has happened.

He concluded the interview by saying he and his family were happy and safe.

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