The first elections for police and crime commissioners were greeted with widespread apathy across England and Wales this week. Turnout barely made it into double figures in some wards, some ballot boxes were returned completely empty.
Joining Tom Clark to discuss this: Guardian columnists Martin Kettle and Anne Perkins and our home affairs editor Alan Travis.
Also this week: Abu Qatada has been given right to remain in Britain following a decision by the court of appeal. The ruling has infuriated the government and is a big setback for home secretary Theresa May.
Plus: In Beijing, China is preparing for a handover of power. The successor to Hu Jintao has been anointed by the 18th party congress. Tania Branigan tells us all there is to know about Xi Jinping (which isn't very much).
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