On this week's Politics Weekly we emerge in the unexpected position of hearing praise for Alastair Campbell and criticising Nick Clegg - it's usually the other way round.
Polly Toynbee welcomes Campbell's certitude - at least he didn't turn up to the inquiry dump on his former boss (as she says other witnesses so far have done) and look for sympathy. Geoffrey Wheatcroft and Madeleine Bunting agree but Madeleine has revised her earlier opinion that the inquiry will be a cathartic process and now thinks it's proven itself to be pointless.
At the end of a fairly busy week for the Liberal Democrats, there's bad news for Clegg - Polly thinks he's not been radical enough and Geoffrey thinks he's not persuasive enough.
And will they all stomach lessons in character from David Cameron - whose speech on Monday made the claim that love can matter as much as poverty in determining life chances.
Polly is scathing but Madeleine welcomes a poltician daring to talk moral values, especially with Cameron's background.
