‘It would be funny if people’s lives and livelihoods weren’t at risk’
May has to go. Her incompetence is off the incompetence scale. A total failure at everything she has touched. She will probably try and continue as she thinks her obstinacy and failure is strength and stability.
It would be funny if people’s lives and livelihoods weren’t at risk from her ineptitude. MrTiggy
‘May is woeful – no wonder we’ve made no progress’
May is a woeful failure on all counts. She has never demonstrated capacity for cooperation or diplomacy. The only way she knows how to relate to Corbyn is to issue personal abuse and sneering insults. It seems to be her default position – no wonder nearly three years after the referendum we’ve made no progress whatsoever towards a resolution. jessthecrip
‘It’s a national calamity’
All this is madness. May says she’s going to talk to parliamentarians about what to do next, but didn’t reach out to any of the opposition bar the DUP?
She still doesn’t get it. This is not a Tory issue, its a national calamity. Grow up. Tintenfische
‘This is contemptuous arrogance’
I’m incredulous at political developments this morning. May loses by the biggest margin ever – yet wants to carry on as if nothing has changed, and Andrea Leadsom hectors the opposition for not supporting May. Over a hundred Tories vote against May in their vote of confidence and in the vote last night – but will all support her in a vote brought by someone else.
May says she wants to reach out to others – but just not anyone who has a differing view. I don’t care which side of the argument you are on. This is contemptuous arrogance. How can it be defeated? dougmeyberry
‘A general election at the moment would solve nothing’
I think we all know that a general election at the moment, with both main parties still aiming for a cakeist Brexit, would solve nothing. A cross party agreement requires that the Tories talk to someone other than the DUP – or that large numbers of moderates on both sides defy the whips. How likely is that? A referendum will only work if the question is definitive, and even then is fraught with difficulty – there isn’t even a deal to vote on, is there? nufubar
‘We may as well go the whole way and just revoke article 50 and remain’
May’s deal is fully and finally dead. There’s no more negotiation with the EU. Within a week, we’ll also find out that there will be no general election and no superior Labour Brexit. Norway+ means we keep freedom of movement, which effectively means we bin Brexit. If we’re going to pay the political price for that, we may as well go the whole way and just revoke article 50 and Remain.
So there’s only two viable options left: either we jump off the no deal cliff and commit national suicide, which no one voted for, or we put this matter back to the people. Anyone who disagrees with a new referendum now needs to explain why they don’t want to resolve this impasse democratically, and what else they suggest. UltraLightBeam
‘The reality now is no Brexit or hard Brexit’
Boris Johnson and others will all claim that there’s a better deal to be renegotiated, but the EU have made it clear time after time that they won’t support anything materially different. So now the reality is no Brexit or hard Brexit. No political party would dare pick either of these, so eventually there must be a re-referendum. UnevenSurface
‘Corbyn seems to be doing everything to block a second referendum’
Corbyn who said he wanted to give power to the Labour members seems to be doing everything in his power to block a second referendum (supported by about 80% of the membership I believe). Deeply frustrating at this critical time. Expect a leadership challenge or members moving their vote elsewhere if this does not change very soon. hadabe
‘It’s patently obvious that we need better political representation’
I was a fool, because when May was announced prime minister I was relieved. But she’s the worst we’ve ever had, and she’s too damn proud and egotistical to do the decent thing and step away from a job she’s not up to.
Her deal, I will give her this, actually united the country. Nobody thought it was a good idea. Remainers hate it, because why wouldn’t they? It’s essentially a half way house that ties us to the EU but without the influence we have now. So what’s the point? Leavers, well of course they hate it, because it’s not leaving properly, so what’s the point?
After all I’ve said about May, she’d still beat Corbyn, because people don’t trust him, so he needs to do the decent thing and step down as well. These are not the best Britain can do, they are merely the political opportunists who have found themselves at the top, and its patently obvious that we need better political representation. Summersgone
‘This is anything other than a joyful occasion’
I was a little surprised and mildly disturbed by the pictures posted from the voting lobbies. It looked like the MPs were having a great time voting against the PM’s motion. The fact that our country is standing at the abyss with an uncertain future seems to me anything other than a joyful occasion.
I would have expected a sense of urgency at the very least. Once again proof that we’re being governed by a bunch of jokers who treat this whole Brexit dilemma as a game. Time for the people to take back control and demand that people’s vote. It may not be in our veins to fill streets and squares in protest, but if ever there was a time and moment, this surely must be it. CozitMakesSense
‘There doesn’t seem to be anyone in parliament who can give clear, non-partisan leadership’
What if there’s another referendum, and leave wins again? Chaotic – revolution rousing, possibly – as it plainly would be, isn’t there an argument for the Government now to say “Sorry,we have tried to honour the referendum result, and we can’t do it. We have to revoke the activation of Article 50.”
Of course, it could lead to horrendous, maybe ungovernable consequences. Choosing the least bad option seems seems very difficult, and there doesn’t seem to be anyone in parliament who can give clear, non-partisan leadership on it. But that’s the responsibility they have signed up for. Time for them to show their worth (if any of them have any). oxymoron
‘I see no other solution than another vote with remain as an option’
For the sake of our future generation, let’s ask them. I see no other solution than another vote with remain as an option. All this time and money wasted could have gone into schools and hospitals. Safeguard our universities. Protect our environment. Keep trading with our geographical neighbours. Safeguard the rights of British nationals living in the EU and EU nationals living in the UK. It is the will of the people. Topinambour
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