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The Guardian - UK
The Guardian - UK
Politics
James Walsh and Guardian readers

'Meaningless': readers on Sajid Javid's British values oath

Should public servants pledge an oath of allegiance?
Should public servants pledge an oath of allegiance? Photograph: Daniel Leal-Olivas/AFP/Getty Images

Every public office-holder will have to swear an oath of allegiance to “fundamental British values”, if proposals by the communities secretary are adopted.

The pledge would be expected to cover members of parliament and other elected officials, civil servants, and council workers, and would cover values such as freedom of speech, equality and democracy.

Sajid Javid, writing in the Sunday Times in response to Dame Louise Casey’s report on social cohesion, said he was “drawn” to such an oath because “civic and political leaders have to lead by example” in upholding values such as “tolerating the views of others, even if you disagree with them.”

Javid also wants all migrants, not just those seeking UK citizenship, to swear an oath of allegiance.

“Without common building blocks of our society, you’ll struggle to play a positive role in British life”, Javid said.

Readers reacted with scepticism to Javid’s proposal, citing, among other things, the difficulty in quantifying uniquely British values - something Javid himself acknowledged.

Below, we highlight some of their arguments.

Britishness is laughing at silly oaths

Probably the best thing about British values is we laugh at swearing silly oaths like they sometimes have to do in tin pot banana republics

It’s window dressing

... it's just ill-thought-through 'window-dressing' (IMO).

Just an attempt to be seen to be doing something about the fractures within society at the moment which are a tad complex and nuanced and which Javid's 'oath' will do nothing to solve.

British values vary person by person

If you asked a hundred British people what are British values, there'd be a hundred different answers. There's no such thing. This is just the tories trying to get some tabloid headlines so it looks like they're actually doing something.

Patriotic revellers wave flags at the Royal Albert Hall. Javid said he is not ‘demanding everyone bobs up and down at Last Night of the Proms’.
Patriotic revellers wave flags at the Royal Albert Hall. Javid said he is not ‘demanding everyone bobs up and down at Last Night of the Proms’. Photograph: Ben Stansall/AFP/Getty Images

Would there be a list?

This sounds like a remarkably silly idea. How would one even define and make a list of these values which people were meant to swear an oath to uphold? Are these values even constant?

Oaths only make sense in specific contexts

Oaths make sense in tightly defined situations - and where there are clear repercussions for breaking it.
You swear an oath before giving evidence - as a reminder not to commit perjury.
New soldiers swear allegiance - as a reminder not to fall asleep on sentry duty.
Promising to be "tolerant" and to "try and fit in" - it's just so vague as to be meaningless.

Absence of oaths is a sign of a healthy nation

British values are constantly changing and the drivers of change are often those reformers who rejected certain British values. In any case, oaths of allegiance are devices abused by extremists while the absence of oaths of allegiance is a sign of a mature, confident nation.

Javid isn’t insisting you like cricket either.
Javid isn’t insisting you like cricket either. Photograph: Richard Sellers/PA

A pacifist alternative is needed

I swear I will never ever allow my government to attack a foreign country that presents no threat to us. I swear I will never allow my government to kill civilians again whilst I have strength

Tolerance is a cornerstone of all democracies - not just Britain

What exactly are "British values"? Javid seems to be promoting "Tolerance, equality, democracy and the democratic process" as being in some way uniquely British. That is utter piffle. Shades of Cameron hailing Britain as having Christian values! And is Javid's oath to begin with "I swear by almighty God...."? For an atheist like me, such an oath is meaningless.

An oath would be meaningless without a proper constitution

When we have a proper written Constitution that cannot be steamrollered by an extreme Govt that has been elected by a minority yet has attained a technical legislative majority (such as our current Govt) in Parliament, there may be some point in devising an appropriate oath; but by then we shan't need it.

We shall also then be able to discuss "Democracy" with some genuine meaning rather than the jingoistic, lowest common denominator, and ultimately hollow and meaningless distractions such as those produced by the likes of Louise Casey and Said Javid.

Would tax dodgers be included?

Would this include the British values of dodging tax and preserving inequality?

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