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'It's a terrible atmosphere' - Holocaust survivor's powerful message on Brexit

Janine Webber has an incredible life story. Her amazing faith in humanity is turning the horrific experiences of her childhood into an important message of peace and understanding.

As a young girl In Lwów, Poland, her father was killed as soon as the Nazis invaded in 1941 and began the systematic murder of Jewish people.

She was forced into the ghetto where her mother died of typhus. Later her surviving family went into hiding, with betrayal and the danger of people discovering their Jewish identity never far away.

Her seven-year-old brother was found and murdered by an SS man - an event which still makes her voice crack with emotion and say she "cannot forgive."

At one point she had to hide in Krakow attic and basement, before going to a convent.

Now 87, Janine is trying to make sure young people in Edinburgh and around the UK understand the horrors of genocide must never be repeated.

We caught up with her as she was in the capital for Holocaust Memorial Day, before she speaking to pupils at schools in Broughton and Trinity.

She said: "For 50 years I wasn't able to speak about it, then I had help from psychotherapy.

"My sons felt people would want to know my story. I want young people to know what happened. I don't want this terrible tragedy to be dismissed or forgotten.

"I want young people to stand up to persecution."

After keeping her story largely to herself for half a century, she "couldn't stop crying" when she finally revealed the horrific details to the Shoah Foundation.

For the last few years Janine, who now lives in London, has been telling her story to young people around the country and abroad.

She said: "I'm always welcome.

"Time and time I'm asked if am I still angry, do I forgive them? I haven't got the anger which I had for many years. I'm certainly not angry with the young Germans or Poles.

"I'm angry with the older people - the grandparents. I don't forgive them. I can't for forgive them for the killing of my family, my brother who was seven years old.

"I suffered because of the Nazis."

On Monday, Janine spoke at a Holocaust Memorial Day event at the Scottish Parliament attended by Nicola Sturgeon and other MSPs.

Recent political discussion around immigrants and Muslims has left Janine feeling "frightened". The Brexit debate and the rise of far-right parties across Europe has been difficult for her to hear. A return of anti-semitism to some parts of British politics has also been of great concern to her.

She said: "I know that the UK is one of the most tolerant countries of Europe.

"But when I'm invited to synagogues there's always security in front. They're so frightened of being attacked.

"It's a terrible atmosphere. Government should stop this through laws."

A recent fund announced by the Scottish Government will give money towards making places of worship safe. Some Holocaust survivors feel shades of 1930s propaganda in the far-right movements across Europe and North America.

Janine added: "The more difficulties a country has, the more extreme right-wing parties thrive.

"For instance with Brexit, it was such a problem, it divided people suddenly. One Polish man was killed because he was a Pole.

"There was so much antagonism. I have a Polish friend who has lived in England for 40 years.

"She will not tell people she comes from Poland - she's afraid. This happened because of Brexit.

"As soon as there are difficulties in a country they are looking for scapegoats. And of course minorities are always a good scapegoat, whether it's the Jews or the Muslims."

Janine was joined by Hasan Hasanović, a survivor of the Srebrenica genocide during the Bosnian Wars in the 1990s. His Remembering Srebrenica foundation is trying to spread awareness of the massacres in the Balkans during the 1990s.

Hasan said: "Before every genocide there is systematic propaganda from the regime.

"The discourse around Muslims and Jews is really dangerous. We have right wing movements on the rise across Europe."

He says wars across the world are becoming increasingly cruel, even if they are not on the same scale as World War Two.

Hasan wants to see the teaching of genocides like that in Srebrenica become compulsory in schools. More than 8,000 Bosniaks were killed in the 1995 massacre, an appalling war crime which reminded many of the Nazis' persecution.

Janine says the best remedy against the politics of hate is simply to see people as human beings.

"At one point a primary school girl asked me not so long ago: 'Are you normal now?'

"She thought because I'm a Jew maybe I'm different or there's something wrong with me.

"It was an innocent question - but they imagined there was something wrong with me and that's why I was persecuted."

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