Victoria Derbyshire has opened up about her breast cancer diagnosis in a frank chat with her I'm A Celebrity campmate Jessica Plummer.
In a moving discussion the BBC newsreader and journalist told how she owes the NHS for saving her life.
The 52-year-old mother-of-two, from Ramsbottom, was diagnosed in 2015 and had reconstructive surgery after a mastectomy.
After six sessions of chemotherapy and 30 sessions of radiotherapy she was given the all-clear from doctors.
In 2018 Victoria published a book based on her video diary called Dear Cancer, Love Victoria which shared her experiences following her diagnosis. She also took part in ITV’s show The Real Full Monty to raise awareness of cancer.
As former EastEnders actress Jessica pumped the water to have a shower in the castle bathroom she asked Victoria about her cancer and if she'd had health insurance.
And Victoria replied: "No the NHS. Amazing.
"NHS are superb. They saved my life. They saved my life, you know."
Recalling how she found out she had cancer she said: "So I was going to bed on a Sunday night and getting undressed in the bathroom, I think I'd had a bath, and I just looked in the mirror and my right breast was about two inches lower than my left."
Jess exclaimed: "I have a boob lower than my other boob."
And Victoria urged her not to worry when she said it had been like that for a long time.
"So that's your normal," she said.
"I knew that wasn't how I normally looked. Not only that, the nipple had become inverted so it was as though someone was pulling it backwards, do you know what I mean?
"Honestly, I thought 'that looks weird' oh I'll just sort that tomorrow. I did not think anything. I didn't."
Five days later it was confirmed she had breast cancer.
Asked how Victoria's husband Mark reacted to the news she told Jessica: "We could barely speak, you know. We could barely speak to each other.
"We are talkers, we are open and we just had no words because honestly all I was thinking was 'I'm going to die. Seriously I'm going to die.'
"And then, I thought 'I'm not going to see my boys grow up, I'm not going to grow old with Mark.'
"I just thought 'my luck's run out, you know.'"
Describing her cancer she told her I'm A Celebrity campmate: "It was all over. It was disparate. It wasn't a lump. It was like, how would I describe it, if you had loads of string all messed up it was like that, sort of long bits, it was all over the place.
"It wasn't a solid lump which is why you need all that chemo and then targeted radiotherapy."
She added: "Most women think you're looking for a lump, actually you're not, you're looking for your..."
"Change?" asked Jess.
And Victoria agreed: "Exactly.
"Your breasts look different to how they normally look. Do you know what I mean?
"But if you get it early it's totally doable. You will survive."
Jess said about their chat: "Ive never had that conversation before in my life with anyone.
"It's an honour to feel like she could be that open with me."
And Victoria said: "I am really passionate about talking to people about breast cancer. I'm so open about it, even though it was recounting some painful times.
"I loved having a young woman asking me about it."
