As European leaders gather in Brussels for climate talks, one issue is dominating the fringe: who will be selected as the council's first permanent president.
Joining Michael White are Julian Glover, the Guardian's chief leader writer and Sebastian Borger, the London correspondent of the German weekly paper the Rheinischer Merkur.
Gordon Brown says he is backing Tony Blair as Britain's candidate for Europe's top job. But is the rest of Europe so keen?
Also discussed today: David Cameron's strategy on Europe as the Lisbon treaty nears full ratification.
And Angela Merkel may have stayed silent on the prospect of a president Blair - but does she hold the key to the appointment?
Plus, can European leaders come to an agreement ahead of key climate change negotiations in Copenhagen later this year?
