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The Independent UK
The Independent UK
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Clémence Michallon

From James Franco to Elon Musk, who could testify at defamation trial of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard?

Left: Frazer Harrison/Getty Images – Right: Theo Wargo/Getty Images for TIME

The defamation case opposing Johnny Depp and Amber Heard began on Monday (11 April) in Fairfax, Virginia.

It stems from a complaint filed in 2019 by Depp, who alleges Heard, his ex-wife, defamed him in an op-ed she wrote for The Washington Post in 2018, in which she described herself as “a public figure representing domestic abuse”. He has asked for $50m in damages.

Heard, in turn, has filed a counterclaim, accusing him of allegedly orchestrating a “smear campaign” against her and describing his own lawsuit as a continuation of “abuse and harassment.” She has asked for $100m in damages, and for immunity from Depp’s claims.

Ahead of the trial, Depp and Heard have each published a list of witnesses their teams may wish to call upon.

They have each filed lists of objections to some of the other side’s witnesses, so the final pool of witnesses will become clearer and may evolve as the proceedings go on.

Here are some of the people named as potential witnesses so far:

Elon Musk

The Tesla CEO is listed as a potential witness for Heard, appearing via video link.

Lists of potential witnesses do not include substantial reasons for why a party’s legal team wants to call upon a specific person as a witness.

Heard and Musk are believed to have dated on and off between 2016 and 2018. When Johnny Depp sued News Group Newspapers, the company that publishes The Sun, for libel in the UK (over a headline calling him a “wife beater”), Musk came up in the ensuing court case.

Eleanor Laws QC, who represented Depp, read out text messages from May 2016, in which Heard told Musk she was going to obtain a restraining order against her then-husband Depp.

Laws said Musk offered to “arrange 24/7 security” for Heard, and that he added: “The offer would stand, even if you never wanted to see me again... anyway, sorry for being an idiot. The radio silence hurts a lot. It only matters because I really like you.”

Depp’s team has subpoenaed some of Musk’s past communications with Heard as part of the Virginia defamation case.

James Franco

The actor is also listed among Heard’s potential witnesses, expected to appear via video link.

Depp’s side has subpoenaed Franco for some of his past communications and documents reflecting interactions with Heard.

Franco, too, came up during the UK court case opposing Depp and The Sun.

Joshua Drew, a friend of Heard, told the court he had heard Depp had a “particular issue” with Franco, and that mention of his name would “cause fights” between Heard and Depp.

Paul Bettany

The actor is listed among Depp’s list of potential witnesses, expected to appear via video link.

Heard’s team has subpoenaed Bettany for some of his past communications with Depp.

Bettany was also mentioned during the previous UK court case.

During a preliminary hearing in February 2020, texts from 2013 were revealed in which Depp allegedly wrote to Bettany: “Let’s burn Amber!!!”

Bettany was said to have replied: “Having thought it through I don’t think we should burn Amber – she’s delightful company and easy on the eye, plus I’m not sure she’s a witch. We could of course try the English course of action in these predicaments – we do a drowning test. Thoughts?”

Depp, in turn, was said to have responded: “Let’s drown her before we burn her!!! I will f*** her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead.”

In an interview with The Independent in December 2021, Bettany, asked about the texts, said: “It was very strange. It was a strange momen. What was strange about it was you suddenly have one of the most scabrous newspapers in London and their lawyers pouring through your texts for the last 10 years.

“Can you imagine what it would be like, honestly, to have a bunch of lawyers go through every one of your emails and texts for 10 years? All I can tell you was that it was an unpleasant feeling.”

Johnny Depp

Depp himself is listed as a witness in his own list as well as Heard’s, appearing in person.

He is considered both a plaintiff in the original complaint he filed, and a defendant in Heard’s counterclaim.

Amber Heard

Heard is included in her own list of witnesses.

She does not appear as a potential witness on Depp’s list so far.

Heard is considered a defendant in Depp’s defamation complaint, and a plaintiff in the counterclaim she filed against him.

For a timeline of Heard and Depp’s relationship and legal battles, click here.

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