Summary
- Boris Johnson, the lead figure in the Vote Leave campaign, has used a rally in London to call for an amnesty for long-term illegal immigrants. He made the call as the EU referendum campaign resumed after a two-and-a-half-day truce prompted by the killing of Jo Cox. Her death has triggered a debate about whether Leave’s anti-immigration rhetoric has gone too far, and Johnson sought to disprove this. As well as proposing the amnesty, he said he was personally pro-immigration and that taking back control of immigration would “neutralise the extremists”. (See 12.51pm.) Vote Leave has also suggested that Remain are at fault for some of the language they have used about immigrants. (See 2.25pm.)
- Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, has used an interview with ITV’s Robert Peston to suggest that the killing of Cox may have harmed the Leave campaign. (See 11.46am.) Later, on Sky News, he partially backtracked, saying he thought Cox’s death may have taken momentum away on both sides of the campaign, and that in the end it might make “little difference” to the outcome.
- George Osborne, the chancellor, has said the economic impact of leaving the EU could be “quite a lot worse” than the official forecast says. Speaking on Peston on Sunday, he said:
The central estimate [of the Treasury] is that our GDP would be 5% to 6% smaller. Personally, I think it’s possible that it would be quite a lot worse than that …
You can’t predict you know the enormous uncertainty that exiting the EU means for Britain. The trade deals that are suddenly torn up, the fact that we have no product regulation in our country, we’d have to write a whole load of new pieces of red tape in through our parliament, the fact that Britain’s standing in the world would be diminished, the fact that there would be a flight from our currency.
In a separate interview on the Andrew Marr Show, Vote Leave’s Michael Gove said he did not accept leaving the EU would be a gamble. He said:
I wouldn’t use the word gamble. Whether we vote to leave or remain there are risks to our future, there are challenges in the global economy.
My view is that those challenges will be easier to meet, those risks will be less, if we vote to leave because we will have control of the economic levers, we will have control over money we send to the European Union, we will have control over our own laws, and as a result we will be able to deal with whatever the world throws at us.
What it would be would be an affirmation of faith and hope in Britain. Britain would be taking its place alongside countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand and America as a self-governing democracy.
We would be saying that the British people in their wisdom and in their generosity have the ability not just to govern themselves well but to be a progressive beacon to the world.
- Ukip’s anti-immigration “Breaking point” poster has been condemned by leading figures on both sides of the campaign. For Remain, Nicola Sturgeon said it was “vile and racist”, while Osborne said it was “disgusting and vile”. For Vote Leave, Gove said seeing it made him shudder.
- Churchgoers in the village where Jo Cox was killed have been told she was a “21st-century good samaritan”. (See 10.36am.)
That is all from me for the moment.
I will be back later to cover David Cameron’s appearance on the Question Time EU Special at 6.45pm on a new live blog.
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Transcripts from Andrew Marr’s interviews with Jeremy Corbyn and Michael Gove this morning are here, on the Marr Show’s website.
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How Cameron floated the idea of backing an amnesty for long-term illegal immigrants himself
One of the attractions of Boris Johnson’s call for an amnesty for long-term illegal immigrants, politically, is that it will be hard for David Cameron to oppose it. Why? Because he has said something similar himself.
According to David Laws’ book about the last government, Coalition, Cameron floated the idea in a discussion with a colleague. The former Lib Dem minister describes how the government tried to deal with the fact that “hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants were able to stay in the country for large numbers of years”. He goes on:
Even the prime minister admitted to having met such people at his advice centres. ‘Perhaps’, he said in 2013, ‘we ought to introduce a route to normalise things for people who have been in the country for so many years that they are never going to leave?’ The Liberal Democrat ministers around the table immediately laughed. ‘Prime minister, we tried that line at the last election,’ I said. ‘The amnesty? It wasn’t awfully popular.’ David Cameron looked distinctly embarrassed. He seemed to have forgotten that he was one of the people who had previously robustly rubbished the idea.
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Vote Leave accuses Remain campaigners of using strong language about migrants
Vote Leave has issued a challenge to David Cameron ahead of his appearance on tonight’s BBC Question Time EU Special. It says he has questions to answer on Turkey. Gisela Stuart, the Vote Leave chair, says:
David Cameron should make clear tonight: will he use his veto to stop Turkey joining the EU? Will he stop sending taxpayers’ money to Turkey to help them join the EU? Will he commit to stopping Turkish citizens being given visa-free access to the UK?
Until we have answers to those questions it is reasonable for people to take at face value the statements David Cameron made before the referendum campaign that he would be in the forefront of efforts to accelerate Turkey’s membership of the EU.
Interestingly, the notes to the news release also imply that Remain campaigners have been using inflammatory rhetoric on immigration. The subtext seems to be: “It’s not just us,” although of course the press notice does not put it like that. Instead, in the notes and under the headline: “The In campaign’s previous rhetoric on immigration”, Vote Leave gives seven examples of supposedly unreasonable things that have been said by people on the Remain side.
There is a touch of desperation about the exercise. One of the seven examples is a Michael Heseltine quote from 1990, one week after the reunification of Germany.
- Sir John Major saying “we must not be wide open to all-comers” (although that was in 1991.)
- Michael Heseltine saying eastern European countries joining the EU could lead to “economic refugees [coming to the west] on a huge scale” (although he said that in 1990).
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Vote Leave has put out a press notice picking up on Jeremy Corbyn’s comment on the Andrew Marr Show about it being impossible to have an upper limit on immigration under current EU rules. (See 9.36am.) It quotes the Labour MP and Vote Leave chair Gisela Stuart saying:
The In campaign have no answers on how we can control immigration if we stay in the EU. They have no plan for how we will fund the NHS so it can cope with the extra pressures that staying in the EU will create. They have no plan for where we will build the extra houses and they have no plan to help people who will see further pressure on their pay packets.
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I’ve just emerged from a big and hastily arranged event in central London by the official Leave campaign, who wheeled out more or less everyone – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Priti Patel, Labour’s Kate Hoey, even David Cameron’s ex-adviser Steve Hilton and a smoked salmon entrepreneur, Lance Forman.
This was less than four days since Jo Cox was killed, but the promised positive, non-partisan tone was absent. This was business as usual, right back to the rats-in-a-sack scrabble for victory.
Hoey was the only speaker to talk directly about Cox, speaking movingly of her fellow Labour MP.
None of the others referred to what happened, and there were some appeals to people’s mistrust of the EU, politicians and “the elite”.
There were crowd jeers against the CBI, IMF and other organisations. Peter Mandelson and Jean-Claude Juncker were booed. It’s all panto stuff but was done deliberately.
Hilton – who was introduced as “one of the great political thinkers of our time” – called Brussels “one of the most corrupt places on the planet”.
Campaigning is back on: there is no reason why this event should have been a wake for Cox. But it’s worth noting that if anyone hoped the build-up to the referendum would be less partisan and more restrained, they’ll be disappointed.
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And here are some more tweets from journalists about what Boris Johnson said in his speech to the Vote Leave rally.
Boris asks audience to imagine waking on Friday with a heavy hangover and seeing Mandelson and Juncker looking happy on television
— Patrick Kidd (@patrick_kidd) June 19, 2016
Boris says EU will continue "Unchastened, unbound and undemocratic" on the back of a Remain vote.
— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) June 19, 2016
Boris Johnson: The EU will go on morphing relentlessly into a superstate, locked ever more relentlessly into bolstering Euro #EUref
— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) June 19, 2016
Boris Johnson has not yet got the "positive" memo. Talking about "terrorist suspects and criminals" on the streets of London.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
My colleague Jonathan Freedland was also at the Vote Leave rally. (I hope he kept a low profile; I gather his excellent Saturday column did not go down well at Leave HQ.)
Here are some of his tweets.
Inevitably muted atmosphere at #VoteLeave rally. Michael Gove kicks off. Flanked by Hoey, Patel, Johnson and Steve Hilton among others
— Jonathan Freedland (@Freedland) June 19, 2016
Boos at the #VoteLeave rally at the mention of the name of Bank of England governor Mark Carney
— Jonathan Freedland (@Freedland) June 19, 2016
Boris Johnson closes #VoteLeave rally with call "to go forward with quiet, polite determination and let's take control"
— Jonathan Freedland (@Freedland) June 19, 2016
Less enthusiasm in the hall at #VoteLeave when Boris Johnson reaffirms his commitment to an amnesty for illegal immigrants
— Jonathan Freedland (@Freedland) June 19, 2016
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Boris Johnson on why he favours an amnesty for long-term illegal immigrants
And here is the key quote from Boris Johnson’s speech, on why he supports an amnesty for long-term illegal immigrants.
And, yes, let us take back control of our borders with a sensible, fair and impartial system. And let me take on this issue absolutely directly. Because I am pro-immigration, my friends. I am the proud descendent of Turkish immigrants. And let me stun you, perhaps, by saying I would go further. I am not only pro-immigration, I’m pro-immigrants, but I am in favour of an amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been here for more than 12 years, unable to contribute to this economy, unable to pay taxes, unable to take proper part in society. And I will tell you why: because it is the humane thing to do. It is the economically rational thing do to. And it means taking back control of a system that is at the moment completely out of control.
And if we take back control of our immigration system with an Australian-style points-based system, you will be dealing fairly and justly with every part of the world, and you will be neutralising people in this country and across Europe who wish to play politics with immigration and who are opposed to immigrants. And that is the way forward, to neutralise the extremists by taking back control of our immigration system.
- Boris Johnson proposes an amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been in the UK for more than 12 years.
- Johnson claims taking back control of immigration would “neutralise the extremists”.
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Businessman tells Vote Leave rally pound will rise after Brexit, making holidays cheaper
More on the Vote Leave rally from my colleague Peter Walker. Here are some of his tweets covering the speakers before Boris Johnson.
The 3 official placards at Leave event. Note the "take back control" in Ukip-friendly purple. pic.twitter.com/y7MPivlyHG
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Gove speaking first: Leave has "at its heart" a belief in British values. Thanks the supporters.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Michael Gove talks up "tolerant" Britain which allowed refugees from Uganda into UK. Bit of shifting next to me.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Gove praising lots of Leave-friendly Labour MPs. That's in part as Kate Hoey is up next to speak.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Hoey is first to mention Jo Cox. Very moving tribute. Hoey calls it "an attack on democracy". Says Cox would want campaign to go on.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Hoey gets big round of applause for saying death of Jo Cox should not be linked to the referendum campaign.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Next up: Priti Patel. She urges supporters to keep the campaign going to the end. pic.twitter.com/4Ev4SikX0k
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Aside from Kate Hoey, no one else has thus far mentioned Jo Cox. No reason why they necessarily should, but the absence perhaps feels felt
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
We have a "dynamic entrepreneur" up now - it's smoked salmon magnate Lance Foreman. "Fishmongering, not fearmongering," he jokes
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Forman (whose name I've been mis-spelling, talks about "unimpressive elites" while standing on a stage with 4 MPs, 2 of them ministers.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Forman predicts that Brexit would not see the pound fall, but would see it surge against euro, giving us all cheap holidays.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
It is worth pointing out that most serious economists think precisely the opposite will happen.
Steve Hilton is introduced as "one of the great political thinkers of our time". pic.twitter.com/CGiIzUITqV
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
Brussels is "probably one of the most corrupt places on the planet", says Hilton. Big cheers.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 19, 2016
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Reporters struggle with access to secretive Leave rally
My colleague Peter Walker sent me this a little earlier.
I’m finally inside a slightly un-advertised event in central London for the official Leave campaign, at which Boris Johnson is meant to speak.
Not that I know for sure, as no one will tell me anything, including for a while if I was even allowed in.
My name was “not on the list”, I was initially told at the old Billingsgate market building on the bank of the Thames by the City – in the main because we were given no real notice of the event. Then I was told the event was full.
Who’s speaking, I asked? You’ll need to ask someone else, said the smiley young man in the red Leave T-shirt. Eventually I was allowed in. I’m now with a slightly impatient crowd of Leave-ers (and a group of Japanese students, seemingly) awaiting entry to the main hall.
There are “technical difficulties”, we’re told.
Peter is not the only reporter who had difficulty getting into the Vote Leave rally. These are from Channel 4 News’ Michael Crick.
Vote Leave have banned me from today's Boris Johnson rally in London, because, says aide Robert Oxley, I "took the piss" at past events
— Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) June 19, 2016
I can't believe Boris Johnson, one of most open, media-friendly politicians, would approve of Vote Leave banning reporters from his events
— Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) June 19, 2016
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Boris Johnson backs amnesty for illegal immigrants at Vote Leave rally
Boris Johnson is speaking at a Vote Leave rally.
He has just said that not only is he pro-immigrant, he also favours an amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants find themselves unable to pay taxes, he says.
Giving them an amnesty would show the government was taking back control, he says.
- Boris Johnson backs amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Johnson has called for an amnesty for illegal immigrants in the past, although this is the first time it has been presented as part of the Vote Leave platform.
Commons leader backs idea of government and opposition MPs sitting together for Cox tribute on Monday
Chris Grayling, the leader of the Commons, told Radio 5 Live’s Pienaar’s Politics earlier that he also would be in favour of government MPs and opposition MPs sitting alongside each other, instead of taking sides as usual, when the Commons meets on Monday to pay tribute to Jo Cox. Asked about the proposal, which Jeremy Corbyn also said he was open to earlier (see 9.29am), Grayling replied:
If people want to do that I would completely support them in doing that. This is a memorial occasion, it’s a chance to pay respects and when we all gather again tomorrow conventional party politics should be a million miles away. At the end of the day people perhaps don’t always recognise outside politics that there are genuinely good relations across all parties, across all sides of the house, and every single member of the house will feel a sense of deep grief as to what has happened.
He also said he thought there should be a memorial to Cox in the Commons chamber.
It has been the tradition that when a member of parliament has lost their life in the course of their duties they have been commemorated with a shield on the walls of the House of Commons chamber. It is obviously what her family wishes and it would be something that should be considered.
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Sturgeon calls Ukip's anti-immigration poster 'vile and racist'
On Sky’s Dermot Murnaghan programme Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish first minster, joined Michael Gove and George Osborne in condemning Ukip’s “Breaking point” poster. She said it was “vile and racist”.
In these last few days I hope we can have a debate that doesn’t focus on immigration.
Yes, people’s concerns about immigration need to be addressed, but let’s also make the positive case for a world and a Europe where we all have the freedom of travel and the positive case for immigration and the benefits that brings to our economy.
On that point, the poster that Nigel Farage unveiled last week was vile and racist and I hope he does agree today to withdraw that poster, because that kind of sentiment has no place in a civilised debate.
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Farage says the “Breaking point” poster was a one-day poster. He has six, he says. The next one will be out tomorrow. It will be about whether the UK wants to be part of a political union.
Q: Do you accept that you are losing the argument, and that economy is trumping immigation?
Farage says it is important to show that David Cameron’s deal was rotten.
Q: Will you go to the Lords after this?
Farage says he does not know what he will do after this.
Farage says he thinks the killing of Jo Cox has taken momentum out of all campaigns.
He says it may be that eventually the killing has little impact on the campaign.
Q: Are you worried about a swing back to the status quo, as in Scotland?
Farage says in Scotland the worries about the Scottish economy being dependent on oil were crucial.
But in this referendum people do not believe the claims about how Brexit would damage the economy, he says.
Nigel Farage's Murnaghan interview
Nigel Farage is now being interviewed by Dermot Murnaghan on Sky.
Farage says the Ukip “Breaking point” poster was a one-day poster. It was intended to to highlight a Europe-wide problem, he says.
He says we would not be having the row about the post if it had not been for the killing of Jo Cox.
Farage's interview with Peston - Summary
Here are the key points from Nigel Farage’s interview with Robert Peston.
- Farage said the killing of Jo Cox was “an act of terrorism”.
- He said he thought Cox’s death had harmed the Leave campaign. When Peston asked if Leave were going to win, he replied:
I think we have momentum – we did have momentum until this terrible tragedy …
When you are taking on the establishment, you need to have momentum. I don’t know what is going to happen in the course of the next three or four days. But I would say this; the action of one person with serious mental issues – frankly what we saw was an act of terrorism. It’s been a dreadful week: Orlando, the killings in Paris, and now one of our own MPs. It is difficult to tell, but I just think this: those that have made their mind up to leave, because they want to get control of their country back, they will go out and vote on Thursday.
- He suggested that Vote Leave’s posters have been just as strong as the “Breaking point” Ukip poster criticised by Michael Gove this morning. (See 9.49am.) Asked about Gove’s comment, he said:
Well, have you seen their posters? They’ve been doing very strong posters, not only about Turkey, but about the number of terrorists and criminals who come into Britain under free movement rules.
- He said that he had been a victim of hatred. When it was put to him that he has been accused of stirring up hatred, he replied:
I’m a politician that’s been a victim of it, to be honest with you.
- He claimed the Remain campaign had been more negative than Leave’s. And he accused George Osborne of hypocrisy in this regard.
Look, when you challenge the establishment in this country, they come after you. They call you all sorts of things. And to be honest we saw the chancellor a few minutes ago, despite the fact overnight he talked about toning down the rhetoric, doing the same thing.
All we have said in this referendum campaign is we want to take back control of our lives, take back control of our borders, and put in place a responsible immigration policy.
Quite frankly, when it comes to negativity and rhetoric, we’ve seen far more of it from the Remain side.
- He defended Ukip’s “Breaking point” poster. When it was put to him that the poster showed refugees in Slovenia who were not coming to Britain, he said the poster illustrated the point that the EU was failing people in Germany and Sweden.
- He denied saying that failure to control immigration could lead to violence. Asked about this, he said:
No, I said there wouldn’t be. I said there was a serious risk of violence in the rest of Europe. I did not think this country would descend into anything like that. I’ve never said it at any point in this referendum campaign.
Farage is not being strictly accurate. In an interview with the BBC last month he said:
It’s legitimate to say that if people feel they’ve lost control completely, and we have lost control of our borders completely as members of the EU, and if people feel voting doesn’t change anything, then violence is the next step.
Farage did not seem to be talking about “the rest of Europe”, as the line about how “we have lost control of our borders”, makes clear. And when the BBC’s John Pienaar challenged him specifically on this point, and asked if he could really imagine people turning to violence in the UK, he replied:
I find it difficult to contemplate it happening here, but nothing is impossible.
- He said he would describe himself as pro-immigration, provided it was “managed properly”.
- He said it was “irresponsible” of Jeremy Corbyn this morning to defend not having an upper limit on immigration. (See 9.36am.)
- He brushed aside a tweet from Lee Seville, the chairman of Rochdale, Heywood and Middleton Ukip, suggesting that the Cox killing was part of some conspiracy. Here is the tweet.
History must not be allowed to be repeated. #Brexit pic.twitter.com/UqF1iVyYUA
— Lee Seville (@LeeJSeville) June 18, 2016
Asked about this, Farage replied:
I don’t know what you are talking about, but if you want to drag it up, well, fine. Let’s look at what some members of the Labour party have said about Israel. If you want to drag it down to that level, you can.
This morning Seville has posted a further tweet clarifying what he meant.
Just to make it clear. This was not about the murder but about the attempt to have the campaign and vote cancelled. pic.twitter.com/CbDugeoqsl
— Lee Seville (@LeeJSeville) June 19, 2016
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Philip Hammond, the foreign secretary, was interviewed on Sky’s Murnaghan programme earlier. Here are two lines from the interview.
Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond says Jo Cox "made a real difference to Government policy on Syrian refugees" https://t.co/UoH8nHWSNY
— Murnaghan (@SkyMurnaghan) June 19, 2016
"It's not good enough for politicians to dismiss experts" - Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond https://t.co/yYx6GmSe8v
— Murnaghan (@SkyMurnaghan) June 19, 2016
Farage describes killing of Jo Cox as 'an act of terrorism'
Q: Boris Johnson said he was pro-immigrant and pro-immigration. Are you?
Yes, says Farage, provided it is controlled.
He criticises Jeremy Corbyn for saying there should be no upper limits to immigration.
Q: Has Boris Johnson offered you a job?
No, says Farage.
Q: What will the result of the referendum be?
Farage says he does not know. But he suggests Leave may have lost momentum as a result of the killing of Jo Cox.
- Farage suggests Leave may have lost momentum as a result of the killing of Jo Cox.
- He describes the killing as “an act of terrorism”.
Nigel Farage's Peston interview – 'I am a victim of hatred'
Q: You have been accused of stirring up hatred.
Nigel Farage says he has been a victim of hatred. He says when you challenge the establishment, they go after you. George Osborne was saying overnight that he wanted a calmer election campaign, but he said inflammatory things about Ukip this morning. Farage says the Remain campaign has been worse than Leave at making provocative comments.
- Farage says he has been a victim of hatred.
Q: Gove said he “shuddered” when he saw your poster.
Have you seen their posters, says Farage. They have have produced very strong posters about Turkey and criminals.
He says it is important to state the truth.
Q: Do you stand by what you said about Cologne?
Farage says what happened in Cologne happened.
Farage says he was talking about Europe. He has never said that about this country.
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Here is the clip showing George Osborne saying he thinks the economic impact of Brexit could be “quite a lot worse” than the experts predict.
Does @George_Osborne think that Brexit would be as bad for the economy as the 2008 recession? #Peston https://t.co/N8fHcWo1wn
— Peston on Sunday (@pestononsunday) June 19, 2016
Jo Cox was a '21st-century Good Samaritan', churchgoers told
The Labour MP Jo Cox was a “21st-century Good Samaritan”, churchgoers were told this morning at a service in Birstall, the village where she was killed. The Press Association has filed this story.
The Rev Paul Knight told a congregation at St Peter’s church in the West Yorkshire community that the 41-year-old MP was “someone with whom Jesus would have been so pleased”.
He said: “Her humanity was powerful and compelling and we would do well to recognise her as an amazing example – a 21st-century Good Samaritan.”
Knight said: “Jo was someone who went out of her way to help others.
“I regret to say I didn’t know what she was like as a girl but she grew into a fervent advocate for the poor and oppressed.
“And though she must have been angry at times about what she saw here and around the world – those places she visited and worked – she seemed to me, at least, to be one who could fight with a passion and a disarming smile.”
Prayers were said at St Peter’s for Cox’s husband Brendan and the couple’s two young children.
Knight also remembered the bravery of Bernard Kenny, 77, who remains in hospital after he was injured coming to Cox’s aid outside Birstall library on Thursday.
After reading the story of the Good Samaritan from the Bible, the vicar said: “There is much wickedness in our world. But thank God there is so much goodness – goodness that does not recognise colour, not nationality.”
This morning Brendan Cox posted this message on Twitter.
Jo loved camping. Last night the kids & I camped in her memory& remembered the last time we were all woken by the dawn chorus #MoreInCommon
— Brendan Cox (@MrBrendanCox) June 19, 2016
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Osborne says economic impact of Brexit could be ‘quite a bit worse’ than official estimates predict
Osborne says the impact of the referendum will be felt for years.
He says last week, when he was presenting his emergency post-Brexit budget plans, he was with Alistair Darling. It was the first time they had shared a platform. It is not just him making these warnings.
Q: Why did you say you would have to break manifesto commitments? That is inflammatory to your party.
Osborne says he wanted people to understand that everyone will be poorer if we leave he EU.
Q: How much poorer would Brexit make us?
Osborne says the official predictions are that the economy could be 5% or 6% smaller.
But he says his personal view is that it could be “quite a bit worse”.
He says there is evidence already that the economy is being damaged.
- Osborne says he thinks economic impact of Brexit could be ‘quite a bit worse’ than official estimates predict.
Q: Do you support the idea of having a statue of Jo Cox put up in her memory?
Osborne says he would like to see some kind of memorial. That should be discussed with her family.
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George Osborne's Peston interview
George Osborne is on Peston on Sunday.
Q: Given that David Cameron said it would be OK to be outside the EU, and that he now says it would be a disaster, isn’t it understandable why people are so angry with politicians?
Osborne says he hopes the rest of the campaign will see fewer “baseless assertions”, and more reason and fact.
He says the Ukip “Breaking point” poster was “disgusting and vile”. It had echoes of 1930s propaganda.
- Osborne condemns Ukip’s anti-immigration poster as “disgusting and vile”.
Q: But isn’t the claim that migration can be reduced to 100,000 a baseless assertion?
Osborne says he does not accept that.
He says the Leave claims about immigration are wrong. If we leave the EU, it could go up.
- Osborne claims immigration could rise if the UK leaves the EU.
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And here is some Twitter comment on Michael Gove’s interview.
From the Sun’s Steve Hawkes
Whatever the verdict on Thursday, Michael Gove's share price has gone up considerably as a result of this campaign
— steve hawkes (@steve_hawkes) June 19, 2016
From the former Sun editor David Yelland
Good for Michael Gove for saying that. Decent man. He's wrong on Brexit but decent man. https://t.co/StOvJZp8CE
— David Yelland (@davidyelland) June 19, 2016
From the FT’s Stefan Stern
That "shuddered" is telling. Gove knows this has gone too far. But he chose to get into bed with Farage.
— stefanstern (@stefanstern) June 19, 2016
From Bloomberg’s Robert Hutton
Although Gove isn't asked directly about this, which *is* from his campaign. pic.twitter.com/jiT7xfg1eL
— Robert Hutton (@RobDotHutton) June 19, 2016
From Toby Young
Every time @AndrewMarr9 quoted a fellow Tory being critical of Gove and @vote_leave, Gove praised them for their public service. Impressive.
— Toby Young (@toadmeister) June 19, 2016
From Jane Merrick
The problem is Gove & others should have drawn a line between themselves and Farage on hardline immigration rhetoric much earlier than today
— Jane Merrick (@janemerrick23) June 19, 2016
From Melanie Phillips
Michael Gove playing absolute blinder on @bbcMarr. Direct, tempered, generous, reasoned. Deeply impressive. https://t.co/FteUUZfqNV
— Melanie Phillips (@MelanieLatest) June 19, 2016
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Here is some Twitter comment on Jeremy Corbyn’s interview.
From the Spectator’s James Forsyth
Very honest from Jeremy Corbyn as he says there can't be an upper limit to immigration because there is freedom of movement within the EU
— James Forsyth (@JGForsyth) June 19, 2016
From Matthew Goodwin, a politics professor and Ukip expert
There's basically nothing in this Corbyn interview that'll resonate among Labour->Ukip switchers "there's no uncontrolled immigration" #marr
— Matthew Goodwin (@GoodwinMJ) June 19, 2016
From Huffington Post’s Paul Waugh
Jeremy Corbyn getting second billing to Michael Gove on Marr. Seems unusual. Party leader normally main guest.
— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) June 19, 2016
Q: A prominent Tory donor is saying Osborne should be replaced as chancellor.
Boris backer Alexander Temerko says Osborne should be sacked and Cameron drummed out early https://t.co/eYeeaCuZOc pic.twitter.com/YXq8oqp6D7
— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) June 19, 2016
Gove says he completely disagrees.
- Gove rejects suggestion Osborne should have to resign as chancellor.
Q: And John Major said the NHS would not be safe with Brexiteers in charge. He says it would be like a hamster with a python.
Gove says he has great respect for Major. But he does not agree. He says he admires the NHS, which has served his family well.
And that’s it. The Gove interview is over.
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Q: You have made proposals that sound like manifesto commitments.
Gove says Vote Leave has giving an idea of what Britain could achieve if it left the EU. For example, it could cut VAT on fuel.
Q: Are these on the ballot paper? Will they happen if we leave?
Gove says they could happen if we leave.
Q: What happens if we do leave? Will Cameron implement them?
Gove says he would tell Cameron he should pick up these proposals.
Q: So wouldn’t Cameron end up a hostage prime minister, being told what to do by Brexit ministers?
Absolutely not, says Cameron. Cameron is a democrat and a patriot “to his bootstraps”. When the Commons voted against intervention in Syria in 2013, Cameron was disappointed. But he accepted the result.
Q: What about George Osborne’s “punishment budget”?
Gove says he does not think this would ever be necessary in the event of Brexit.
He says people say things during campaigns, but Osborne’s claims have not reduced Gove’s “admiration and respect” for him.
He says he thinks the UK economy would be stronger if the UK left the EU.
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Gove: Whether we vote to leave or remain, there are risks to global economy. We'll be better equipped to deal with them outside EU
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Q: Shouldn’t workers listen to people like the Hitachi bosses who say leaving the EU would be bad for the economy?
Gove says there are many business figures who say we would be better off outside.
Q: If leaving is not a gamble, how would you describe it?
Gove says he would see it as an affirmation of faith in Britain.
Gove defends Vote Leave decision to warn about 1m Turks coming to the UK
Q: Has the tone of political debate become too coarse?
Gove says he has heard people say things in terms he would not use.
But he thinks free speech is very important. Arguments should be set out in robust terms.
Q: You don’t think it has gone too far. Sadiq Khan has spoken about the climate of hatred and cynicism.
Gove says he admires Khan. He thinks he is turning out to be a good mayor.
It is understandable why Khan thinks that after his mayoral campaign.
But he says he takes a different view. He believes in robust debate.
Q: What did you think of the Ukip poster, showing refugees with the caption “Breaking point”?
Gove says he “shuddered” when he saw that poster.
- Gove condemns Ukip’s anti-immigration “Breaking point” poster.
He says he is pro-migration.
But we only secure public support for immigration if people feel they can control it.
Q: Vote Leave said that within eight years we could see an extra 1 million people coming to the UK from Turkey. Are you happy with that?
Gove says he is. It is official government policy to support Turkish accession.
- Gove defends Vote Leave decision to warn about 1m Turks coming to the UK.
Q: But doesn’t talking about “birth rates” make you queasy?
Gove says it is important to talk about numbers.
Q: Michael Heseltine says you are marching to the drum of Ukip.
Gove says he does not accept that. He says the Vote Leave campaign has a wide range of support.
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Michael Gove is being interviewed now.
Michael Gove remembers lending Jo Cox £5 when she'd forgotten her cash in the Commons tea rooms #Marr
— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) June 19, 2016
Michael Gove:Jo Cox was an amazing and wonderful person, 'she is the sort of person all of us would want our daughters to be like' #marr
— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) June 19, 2016
Michael Gove: We need to pause and think about what we can do to ensure MPs are kept safe but it's important they remain accessible #marr
— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) June 19, 2016
Corbyn ends by telling people to reflect on the wise words of Rowan Williams, the former archbishop of Canterbury, today.
Williams told the BBC in his role as chairman of Christian Aid ahead of refugee week:
Desperate people who have been driven out of their homes by war are being forced to make dangerous journeys in search of sanctuary. Yet many countries are closing their borders and putting up barbed wire.
The UK must not turn a blind eye to this crisis. We can and must do more to respond …
The rhetoric in the media is one that suggests that the UK is ‘full’, and that those arriving on our shores are a drain on our economy. Not only are these assertions unfounded, but they fail to recognise the positive, life-affirming contributions that generations of refugees have made to British society – and that we ourselves are changed by welcoming the stranger.
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Corbyn says there cannot be an upper limit to immigration
Q: Is there any upper limit to immigration?
Corbyn says you can not have one while you have free movement of labour.
And free movement of labour means you have to protect living standards.
If you lower living standards in a country like Greece, they will come to countries like the EU.
Q: So you are pro-immigration. Brendan Cox, Jo’s husband, says politicians have not been willing to defend immigration.
Corbyn says he spoke to Brendan last night. He says the Ukip poster released on Thursday last week was “appalling”.
Q: People are concerned about immigration, and they do not like politicians implying they are racist.
Corbyn says he is not calling them racist.
He says people should blame the government for not funding services.
Q: Tom Watson has proposed curbs on free movement.
Corbyn says he has spoken to Watson about this. They agree that they need to improving living standards.
Q: Some people are terrified by uncontrolled immigration.
Corbyn says there is no uncontrolled immigration.
Q: So people worried about this should vote for Brexit.
Corbyn says if you have free movement of capital, you need free movement of people.
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Jeremy Corbyn: MPs are seen to be cut off from people's lives. It makes people feel 'what's the political system doing for me?' #marr
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Q: Do you think immigration should not be an issue?
Corbyn says more than 2 million Britons live in Europe. Europeans work here. The key thing is to improve conditions all over Europe, and to tackle those who are exploiting them.
If there was less exploitation, immigration levels might reduce.
He says he also backs the return of the migration impact fund.
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Q: Were you aware of the concerns MPs had about being attacked?
Corbyn says he had talked about this with Chris Bryant, the shadow leader of the Commons.
Q: There is a suggestion that when MPs meet tomorrow to pay tribute to Jo Cox the parties should mix up where they sit, to show their unity.
Corbyn says people are considering that idea.
He says it will be a dignified occasion. It will not be a day for long speeches, he says.
- Corbyn says MPs are considering giving up normal partisan seating arrangements when the Commons meets tomorrow to pay tribute to Jo Cox.
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Q: Do you have any particular memories of Jo Cox?
Corbyn says she was very committed, very passionate. When he visited Birstall on Friday to pay tribute, he was struck by the unity of the crowd. People saw this as an attack on democracy. He says we should also remember the two people who tried to protect her. One, a retired miner, is still in hospital.
He says if someone is elected, they cannot do their job if they do not keep in touch with the people who vote for them.
He says he loves his constituency. He loves being able to walk about and chat to people. That way he learns about the reality of how legislation impacts on them.
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I have already mentioned the Opinium poll in the Observer showing Leave and Remain neck and neck.
A Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday gives Remain a three-point lead.
And a YouGov poll for the Sunday Times gives Remain a one-point lead.
Remain leads 44% to 43% in YouGov/Sunday Times poll as voters grow fearful of Brexit effect on finances https://t.co/lFECgHWQCv
— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) June 19, 2016
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On the Andrew Marr Show Sir Nicholas Soames, the Conservative MP, and Labour’s Kate Hoey are reviewing the papers. Commenting on Jo Cox’s killing, Soames says that politics has always been a rough business, but that public debate has “coarsened” recently and that it has become “much more vicious”. Hoey says social media has been a big factor in this.
EU referendum campaigning was suspended following the killing of the Labour MP Jo Cox on Thursday, but today it is back. Here are some of the key developments in the Sunday papers.
There are economic risks if we leave, economic risks if we remain. I don’t think there will be a recession as a result of a vote to leave.
But at some point in the future, it may be the case that global economic factors cause problems. My argument is that whatever happens in the future, an independent Britain will be better able to cope with those strains.
I can’t foretell the future but I don’t believe that the act of leaving the European Union would make our economic position worse, I think it would make it better.
- David Cameron has said leaving the EU would amount to an “abject and self-imposed humiliation”. In an article in the Sunday Telegraph he said:
It would be a one-off and permanent diminution in our standing in the world; an abject and self-imposed humiliation for a proud and important country like ours. That’s why all of our major allies want us to remain; only our adversaries want us to leave. I say: we are not one twenty-eighth of the EU; we are one hugely important, global player. And that is exactly how we should stay.
This is it now. Let’s do this thing.
Later this week we’ll have a once in a lifetime opportunity. This is our moment when the British people take centre stage in history.
The eyes of Europe will be on us and hundreds of millions of people will be praying that we do the right thing and vote for change.
If we do this, we’ll be speaking up for democracy not only in Britain but throughout Europe and it will be a fine thing that will echo through the ages.
In the past 72 hours, we’ve heard from impeccably independent institutions set up precisely to warn us about economic risks. The Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee said voting to leave the EU could lead to a sharp fall in sterling, higher prices, lower growth and rising unemployment and is the largest immediate risk facing not just Britain’s financial markets, but global markets too …
So what has been the Leave campaign’s response to this? Down with the experts! We don’t want to hear the facts.
It means we shouldn’t listen to people who know what they’re talking about; we should only listen to those who don’t.
I find this deeply troubling. Never before in British politics has independent, impartial, expert analysis been so necessary. If we quit the EU, there is no going back. We can’t turn around in a couple of years and say: we’ve made a mistake; please let us back in. The referendum is also about who we are as a country.
And there is lots more to come. Here is what we are expecting on the Sunday morning programmes.
9am: Jeremy Corbyn and Michael Gove are on the Andrew Marr Show.
10am: George Osborne and Nigel Farage are on Peston on Sunday.
10am: Farage and Philip Hammond are on Sky’s Murnaghan programme.
10am: And John Pienaar has a range of guests on his programme.
On Pienaar's Politics at 10am on @bbc5live: @DMiliband, @Nigel_Farage @BorisJohnson, Alan Johnson & Chris Grayling. pic.twitter.com/Z7Fa5uiCUU
— John Pienaar (@JPonpolitics) June 19, 2016
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