It's a brave man who makes childbirth all about him.
Yes, it can be long, emotional and tiring for the dad-to-be, and yes, he may be used as an emotional punchbag, but still...
So it's perhaps no surprise that one dad is being rinsed for ranting about feeling left out while his wife was in labour .
Airing his grievances on Dadsnet , he wrote: "Currently having a newborn in hospital waiting for his arrival. Just hit me that dads on labour wards seem to be invisible.
"Sat yesterday for 12 hours never offered a drink or anything I felt invisible. It was a disgrace and made me feel quite mad.
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"All the tax and national insurance I pay and not even a courtesy of a teabag now and then or even just like I had a right to be there supporting my missus and waiting for our miracle.
"Have any of you experienced same treatment?"
If it was tea and sympathy he was after, he came to the wrong place.
As one particularly angry fellow man wrote: "Two things toolbelt. One: This experience should never be about you.
"But since your frail ego can’t seem to handle that, congratulations on putting your pee-pee in a vagina until climax. Might I offer you a beverage? Perhaps a tea?
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"Two: If you were there for the missus… ACTIVELY there for the missus, you wouldn't 'feel invisible' you’d be too concerned with her to care."
He added: "Every hospital I've ever been to I acknowledge my role as support for the patient.
"If I want a tea, I get it for myself. I ask the patient if they want something.
"The hospital staff has always treated me with kindness. They were accommodating, and complimentary.
"It's obvious you're somewhat of a selfish jerk.
"Because you take a time when your wife is in great pain, she’s scared, she’s anxious, she’s pushing a human out of her body… and you make a point to draw attention to how you were deprived of attention."
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And that was one of the more constructive responses.
Another dad waded in, saying: "My wife went through a 72 hour labour ending in an emergency C section for our first and we spent nine hours waiting for a C section for our second.
"At no point in that 81 hours did I want someone to make me a cup of tea."
A few of the more sympathetic souls did say they could see where he was coming from (kind of), but did stress that NHS staff are often over-worked and have to make mum and baby the priority.
