ZDNet interviews former White House adviser and cybersecurity tsar Richard Clarke:
"Some people, when they talk about security, they use 9/11 as a benchmark. They say unless it's going to result in a 9/11, where we have 3,000 body bags, it's no big deal. (But) you know there are lots of things in our life that are important, and there are important security problems that don't create 3,000 body bags."
