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Ben Poston, Angel Jennings, Joseph Serna and Javier Panzar

California fires: Trump views devastation in Paradise, arrives in Southern California

PARADISE, Calif._Viewing the destruction of a wildfire that has killed more than 70 people, with 1,000 others still unaccounted for, President Donald Trump vowed Saturday to help California recover from the devastation and work to prevent future catastrophic blazes.

Trump toured the rubble of Paradise, where more than 10,000 structures were lost, with Gov. Jerry Brown and Gov.-elect Gavin Newsom.

Trump said he was stunned by the level of destruction.

"Hopefully, this will be the last of these, because it was a really, really bad one," the president said. "People have to see this to really understand it."

Although Trump and Brown have strong political differences, they struck a chord of unity. Trump praised the state's first responders and said he had productive discussions with Brown and Newsom. The president also avoided his criticism of California's fire and forest management that sparked controversy last weekend, even suggesting there was common ground on how to proceed.

"We do have to do management, maintenance. We'll be working also with environmental groups," Trump said. "I think everybody's seen the light.

"We're all on the same page now. Everybody's looking at that. It's going to work out well," he added.

Asked about whether his views on climate change had shifted, the president said no: "I have a strong opinion; I want great climate."

Brown said the road ahead will be challenging. "It's a big massive cleanup after a massive tragedy," he said. "Somehow we will pull through it together." The governor also thanked Trump "for himself being here and putting the focus and the spotlight" on the tragedy.

The president arrived in Southern California on Saturday afternoon for a similar tour of devastated areas in and around Malibu and Thousand Oaks. The Camp fire in Northern California and the Woolsey fire in the south combined have burned more than 250,000 acres and destroyed more than 10,000 structures.

Trump was roundly criticized last week for erroneously blaming the fires on poor forest management and threatening to cut off funding to California.

But in recent days, the president has offered more conciliatory comments about the wildfires, saying Tuesday, "We mourn for the lives lost and we pray for the victims of the California wildfires."

In an interview on Fox News, Trump said climate change might have contributed to the fires but maintained that forest management policies must change.

"Maybe it contributes a little bit," he said of climate change. "The big problem we have is management ... . You need forest management, it has to be, I'm not saying that in a negative way.... I'm just saying the facts, and I've really learned a lot."

Rep. Doug LaMalfa, R-Calif., who was traveling with the president Saturday, briefed reporters shortly before Air Force One landed in California about the significance of forest management, according to a White House pool report.

"The president wants to get something done on this," LaMalfa said. "We need to be a lot more aggressive."

LaMalfa dismissed criticism of the president's earlier tweet on forest management as having more to do with its timing and politics than the substance of the argument. He said that forest management does not mean clear-cutting but rather thinning and creating buffers around populated areas.

"Without forest management, things can go wrong," he said.

Trump continued to talk about forest management while in California on Saturday. "We've got to take care of the floors, you know the floors of the forest. It's very important," the president said.

He also alluded to Finland, saying that country focuses "on raking and cleaning. They don't have any problem and when it is ... I know everyone is looking at that."

The reference to Finland puzzled some, because its ecosystem is so different that that of California.

"We will do whatever is necessary (to help California), 100 percent," Trump said. "We'll get it taken care of."

Trump's visit was already drawing a backlash from some Southern California residents.

As the Woosley fire raged in Malibu, Carrie Armstrong, 57, of Topanga Canyon, said she read Trump's tweet that blamed the wildfires on poor forest management and misappropriation of funds and found them highly insensitive.

"He's still the president," she said. "He shouldn't speak so badly about people (in crisis). He hates California."

Armstrong said she spent six days holed up in her niece's Van Nuys apartment with her cat and dog. She returned, grateful to be alive and her home still standing. The worry has turned to anger as she thinks about Trump visiting her home state.

"He's only visiting because he got so much flak and negative feedback" from his tweet, she said.

Ryan Victor, 47, was among the thousands of area residents forced to flee their homes when the fire first began nine days ago. On Saturday, Victor and many others found themselves trying to return to their usual routines.

First on his list: pick up the pile of mail that had accumulated since he was forced to evacuate from his Topanga home.

As he went about his errands, he said that he had become numb to Trump's rhetoric but that this was different.

"The idiotic things that come out of his mouth doesn't register much anymore," he said. "But I'm outraged over the hypocrisy."

He noted the president's tweet that seemed to place the blame for the wildfire on California and its policies, followed by what now seems like a show of support and compassion by visiting.

"With him, as long as he signs the check" to help with the recovery "and doesn't withhold federal funds for forest management, that's all that matters," Victor said. Everything else is just "a lot of noise."

On Saturday afternoon, a long line formed outside a Los Angeles County courthouse in Malibu that was converted into a Woolsey fire disaster center before the doors were set to open at 1 p.m. Dozens of federal, state and local agencies set up tables inside to help residents get the help they need.

Carol Bretonne, 78, stood behind more than a dozen people to find out what services would be offered to help her rebuild her Malibu home. It was the second time she lost everything. A 1978 blaze destroyed her house. A year later she started construction on a new one, which was charred by the Woolsey fire.

Now, she wondered if she could shoulder the high cost of debris removal, which her insurance doesn't cover.

"We lost our neighborhood," she said. A week later, Bretonne also lost her mother to old age. The double tragedies left her unconcerned about Trump's visit.

"What is he going to do?" she asked. "He doesn't do anything. He did finally claim a disaster area so we can get FEMA."

Steven Cordrey, 52, stood nearby. Cordrey lost his house in the 1994 Malibu fires but said this time was worse because he has not been able to get any information about his house.

"It's 2018!" he said, his voice shaking with emotion. "This is a travesty. We have not been allowed in (his neighborhood) for nine days. We're treated like criminals when I go to checkpoints to ask."

He believes he spotted rubble where his home once stood when Caitlyn Jenner posted a video from her hilltop home that panned across the neighborhood.

"That's how all of us found out," he said. "Nine homes. Nine neighbors. That's not OK that's how we found out there's no neighborhood and nobody's there."

Despite the tremendous devastation in the Malibu hills, Cordrey said Saturday that some things remain the same as he spotted surfers catching waves, trees tinged with fall swaying in the wind, and the sun reflecting off the rippling ocean.

"It's very surreal," he said. "Because where we're at, there is nothing."

In Butte County, eight more bodies were found Friday, and the number of people unaccounted for jumped from 631 to 1,011 as authorities continued to comb through 911 calls, emails and other reports of missing people.

Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea said, however, that the list of the missing is dynamic and may include people who were counted twice, whose names were misspelled or who may not know they were reported missing.

The Camp fire, already the state's worst fire on record, has burned 146,000 acres and destroyed 12,263 structures, officials said, adding that it could take weeks to complete the search for victims and identify them. Thousands of residents are without homes and living in shelters and tent cities.

The Woolsey fire in Southern California has burned more than 500 structures and killed three people.

Trump's visit was just his second as president to the nation's most populous state. His first California visit, which he made in March to inspect border wall prototypes outside San Diego and to attend a fundraiser in the Beverly Park home of Edward Glazer, the co-chairman of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFL team, came later in his term than any White House occupant since Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Trump has had a particularly combative relationship with California, over environmental, immigration and other policies. The state's Democratic leaders, including Brown, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and Reps. Adam B. Schiff and Maxine Waters, have been frequent Trump targets and, to varying extents, the faces of the resistance to him.

Last weekend, he wrote, "There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!"

Experts called the tweet uninformed. Many politicians and residents called it insensitive.

"This is not a time for partisanship," Newsom responded at the time. "This is a time for coordinating relief and response and lifting those in need up."

The president of California Professional Firefighters, Brian Rice, called the tweet "ill-informed, ill-timed and demeaning to those who are suffering as well as the men and women on the front lines."

"At this moment, thousands of our brother and sister firefighters are putting their lives on the line to protect the lives and property of thousands," Rice added. "Some of them are doing so even as their own homes lay in ruins. In my view, this shameful attack on California is an attack on all our courageous men and women on the front lines."

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