‘Never underestimate the power of stupidity’
Never underestimate the power of stupidity. Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. Either we stay in, or we get out. What we are doing is the most ridiculous of all, doing neither. The parties are already split. The whole issue needs to be put to our stupid MPs in a form with no indecision option. There will be no further negotiation. The country will leave the EU in October. If this is voted down, we revoke 50, without a further vote. Tedami7
‘A bleak outlook’
Only the Government can govern. The Tory party has lost the capacity to do anything but harm, but no political party will ever throw in the towel: they have to be removed by the people. But there is no majority in parliament for a vote of confidence. The way forward seems to inevitably be that the Tories force May out and then try to install an ERG candidate. The new PM will either not be able to hold on to power, or will manage to destroy everything in an Octobe push for no deal. A bleak outlook. AuSuivant
‘The clock is ticking for all of us now’
I think May has no intention of resigning; she has no intention of calling a general election or second referendum amd she doesn’t care if her withdrawal agreement goes through. It’s really simple: article 50 needs to be revoked. Peter Oborne is the first of many hardcore Brexiteers who are going to move to that position in the next few months.
The problem is that if May, Farage, Rees-Mogg and Johnson get their way austerity will go into hyperdrive in the midst of a hard Brexit: schools will go to four-day weeks; the NHS will become skeletal; and many of us will be jobless. The only way forward is to revoke A50, have a second referendum, call a general election, or at the very least get rid of May so we can have an honest conversation. The clock is ticking for all of us now. gavernism
‘We need to ask ourselves: is it really what we want?’
Twice now we have had a foretaste of what Britain outside the EU would look like. A British PM is left in an anteroom for hours while 27 other nations discuss matters that affect our interests and future. So much for “take back control”. The current British government is a busted flush. Finely balanced between factions, remove the lynchpin, Mrs May, and it collapses in chaos and infighting. The whole Brexit issue will eventually have to return to the voters in one way or another.
Meanwhile we have local elections, and almost certainly European elections, where voters will surely vent their frustration of political parties that have failed to deliver on what they promised. We desperately need leadership and a new direction. The promises made of Brexit made so glibly three years ago have been shown to be moonshine. Is it really what we want? This question must surely go back to the voters before the autumn. fortyniner
‘May’s still painfully tugging at the plaster because she’s too frightened to yank it off’
If we’d left on 29 March like we were supposed to it would all have been sorted by now. Citizens’ rights agreed, Irish border in Calais, trade talks under way to move the border back to Ireland; and £39bn available to oil the wheels and grease a few palms. Headache over! Oh, the relief! Instead of that, May’s still painfully tugging at the plaster because she’s too frightened to give it one good yank to rip it off. She’s a disgrace. One last chance to redeem herself. Leave on Friday. Kasetekorn
‘One thing is for sure, the Tories are unfit to govern’
It’s very difficult to see a way out of this, as people seem to be becoming more entrenched. I think Labour are still sincerely working for a damage limitation compromise, but agree that it’s now unlikely. It might have worked if May had collaborated cross party two years ago and tried to bring the country together, but it’s probably too late now. The logic then is to put the question back to the people, or have a general election, but that had been the logical solution when the previous deadline passed, and the Tories didn’t bite the bullet. So crashing out with no deal is still on the cards. Unless the Tories self-destruct, or enough of their MPs get a spine, it’s hard to see how we avoid that. Unbelievable that it’s come this. One thing is for sure, the Tories are unfit to govern. toooom
‘Brexit is a contagion’
A suggestion to all MPs: revoke article 50. Anything else is criminal negligence to the British people and to the rest of Europe. Isolate Brexit and kill it. Please do not force us to endure the two worst leaders in modern history trying to make impossible compromises to keep their parties together. Brexit is a contagion that leaves ruined lives and careers in its wake. All who touch it are contaminated with shit. Jeremy, stay away. It will beat you. Let the Tories destroy themselves with their own impossible dreams. Tories, you know what you have to do. ID6597784
‘We have two party leaders acting like bald men fighting over a comb’
So after three years of bullshit from the Brexit camp, the stark reality is that by claiming to taking back control, we have ceded the huge power we had within the EU, have no ability to influence what happens next and are demonstrably incapable of governing from Westminster. We have two party leaders acting like bald men fighting over a comb, discord and disagreement within both major parties on the most fundamental issues, and we seem to have no possibility of escaping this swamp of shit that we have created for ourselves. FreeThinker73
‘I have no confidence May can do this’
I have no confidence that May can do this. She has proven time and time again to be inflexible, her behaviour over the compromise discussions show that. She expects everyone else to compromise. The EU have done us a favour, but whether we can use it or not is questionable. A general election cannot fix this because as was seen in the last election people voted for parties that were agreeing to leave the EU even when those voting for them didn’t want to. Another referendum is necessary. But remember any Brexit deal is going to continue to drain money and energy from the country and the interminable discussions will continue as the protracted discussions on the actual trade relationship start. I prefer revoke. But I’ll compromise on a second referendum. Choconomics
