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Biden and Sanders clash over coronavirus and healthcare in first one-on-one debate – as it happened

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders stood far apart at the Democratic debate.
Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders stood far apart at the Democratic debate. Photograph: Evan Vucci/AP

Debate summary

That’s it from me tonight after the 11th Democratic debate. Here are some of the night’s key takeaways:

  • Coronavirus dominated the debate, with Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders offering different visions for how to combat the crisis. After the pair bumped elbows to greet each other, Biden described the coronavirus crisis as an “all hands on deck” situation that required immediate steps to protect vulnerable communities, while Sanders said the pandemic underscored the need for an overhaul of the US healthcare system to protect all Americans. The contrast reflected one of the key questions in the primary race: should the country focus on immediate, short-term results or broad, structural change?
  • Biden pledged to choose a woman as his running mate. Sanders would not explicitly commit to selecting a woman running mate but said, “In all likelihood, I will.” Biden’s pledge could help to reassure Democrats who are disappointed that the party’s historically diverse field has narrowed down to two white men in their late 70’s.
  • Biden avoided a complete debacle, which Sanders needed to change the direction of the race. Biden did stumble at times, but considering his significant delegate lead, Sanders needed his opponent to have a terrible night if he wanted any chance at turning the tide of the race. Biden managed to avoid that catastrophe.
  • The debate was surprisingly combative considering the current crisis. Many commentators had predicted the night would be relatively tame as the candidates focused on the health crisis gripping the country. However, Sanders went after Biden for his refusal to disavow super PACs and his past comments on Social Security, and Biden returned the favor by criticizing Sanders for his record on gun control and his recent praise of Fidel Castro.
  • Tonight made the case for holding debates without live audiences. The debate was conducted without a live audience or a media spinroom because of coronavirus, and a number of commentators said it was a welcome change from past debates. It’s possible the practice could be replicated with general election debates.

Thanks for following our live debate coverage tonight, and our US politics live blog will return tomorrow morning.

Anita Dunn, a senior adviser to Joe Biden, compared Bernie Sanders to the average protester who shows up at Biden’s events in a post-debate call with reporters.

Biden has recently tried to make some overtures to Sanders’ supporters, but comments like Dunn’s are unlikely to help the party unify if Biden wins the nomination.

Joe Biden’s announcement tonight that he was pledging to select a woman as his running mate made a big splash, and that appears to be by design.

After the debate, Biden’s campaign said on a call with reporters that the former vice president decided he wanted to make the announcement on a “big stage.”

“It’s something he thought about a lot recently and he decided he wanted to make a big commitment on a big stage,” Symone Sanders, one of Biden’s senior advisers, told reporters.

Trump has weighed in on tonight’s debate, criticizing the event as “VERY boring” and accusing Joe Biden of lying about the president’s record on entitlement programs.

It’s worth noting that, despite Trump’s repeated pledges to protect Medicare and Social Security, his administration’s annual budget called for cuts to Medicare and Social Security disability programs.

Bernie Sanders expressed openness to the idea of delaying the four primaries scheduled to take place on Tuesday.

Sanders said he was “not sure it makes a lot of sense” to hold the primaries as scheduled, considering the coronavirus crisis.

Some states, such as Louisiana and Georgia, have already said they will move their primaries because of the pandemic.

Bernie Sanders noted in a post-debate interview that Joe Biden has started adopting some of his positions since becoming the frontrunner in the presidential primary.

For example, hours before tonight’s debate, Biden’s team announced he would propose making public universities tuition-free for families making less than $125,000.

“Suddenly today, Joe Biden is a free spending socialist, my god. Hey, we’re going to pay for everything,” Sanders joked to CNN’s Anderson Cooper.

Here’s how some pundits and experts have been responding to tonight’s debate online:

Bernie Sanders reiterated his thinking on the coronavirus crisis in a post-debate interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper.

Sanders said the country needs to help those who are suffering financially because of the crisis, but he added this can be “a time for reflection.”

“What happens after this crisis is over? And it will be over,” Sanders said. “What kind of nation do we want to be?”

In addition to the debate, there are more updates on how the US is reacting to the coronavirus crisis.

New York mayor Bill de Blasio has announced he will sign an executive order “limiting restaurants, bars and cafes to food take-out and delivery. Nightclubs, movie theatres, small theatre houses, and concert venues must all close.” The order will go into effect on Tuesday.

For all of the latest updates on coronavirus, follow the Guardian’s live blog:

Trump's campaign criticizes debate and praises his coronavirus response

The president’s reelection campaign has released a statement criticizing Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders while praising Trump’s response to the coronavirus crisis.

“Unable to articulate a coronavirus plan, both Bernie and Biden offered little more than plagiarizing President Trump’s response, which will now be the model for all future pandemics,” said Kayleigh McEnany, the press secretary of Trump’s campaign.

Both Biden and Sanders criticized Trump’s response to the crisis, accusing the president of dangerously downplaying the health threat and undermining health experts.

Earlier this evening, Trump spoke at a White House press conference and claimed the government has “tremendous control” on the situation, a statement that was contradicted moments later by Dr Anthony Fauci, who said the worst was yet to come in the US.

Some of Joe Biden’s critics accused him of misrepresenting his record after distancing himself from his past stances and claiming he opposes fracking, which is not reflected in his campaign platform.

Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, one of Bernie Sanders’ top surrogates, criticized Biden in a tweet:

Debate closes on a final coronavirus question

The final question of the debate returned to coronavirus, with both candidates being asked for their closing message on the crisis. The two candidates’ answers served as a decent synopsis of tonight’s debate.

Bernie Sanders said the crisis required the country to consider how we reached this point and “where the power is in America.” He called on leaders to “rethink America and create a country where we care for each other.”

Joe Biden, on the other hand, described the crisis as an “all hands on deck” situation that required the country to take extraordinary measures. However, he did not call for a broad reevaluation of the systems making up American society, as Sanders did.

With that, the 11th Democratic debate came to a close.

Just before the debate went to a commercial break, Bernie Sanders said he had concerns that Joe Biden could inspire the excitement needed to win a general election.

Biden responded by pointing out he has won some of the states that have seen the highest spike in voter turnout.

For example, in Virginia, where the number of Democratic primary voters nearly doubled from 2016, Biden won by 30 points.

CNN’s Dana Bash asked Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders about vulnerabilities in their bases of support.

Biden was asked about him losing Latinx voters to Sanders in a number of states, while Sanders was asked about his struggles to appeal to African-American voters.

Both Biden and Sanders dodged the question, pointing to other voting groups they are popular with to justify their weaknesses elsewhere.

Bernie Sanders was asked about his past flattering comments about the late Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

The comments are newly relevant considering Florida, which has a large Cuban-American community, will hold its primary on Tuesday.

“I have opposed authoritarianism — whether it’s in it’s in Cuba, whether it’s in Saudi Arabia, whether it’s in China or whether it is in Russia,” Sanders said. “That is my life record.”

However, Sanders said the achievements of countries like China, such as decreasing poverty, should be recognized alongside their autocratic ways.

Joe Biden’s promise that he would appoint a female vice president has generally been well-received. However, some have highlighted the Democrats who may be disappointed by his announcement, including two former 2020 candidates:

It’s also sparked speculation about who the woman could be, as well as eye-rolling at the diversity on display at tonight’s all male debate:

Updated

While the debate takes another commercial break, it’s worth noting Republican senator Lindsey Graham has said he tested negative for coronavirus.

Graham announced he would quarantine himself after having a meeting last week with Australia’s minister of home affairs, Peter Dutton, who subsequently tested positive for coronavirus.

The conversation has turned to climate change, and Bernie Sanders argued the “existential crisis” requires the same level of response as the coronavirus pandemic.

Sanders argued Joe Biden’s proposals do not go far enough to combat climate change. “I know your heart is in the right place, but this requires dramatic, bold action” Sanders told Biden.

Pushing back against Sanders, Biden interestingly agreed to “no new fracking,” which goes much farther than his previous statements and could come back to haunt him during the general election.

Joe Biden said he would freeze deportations if he became president and would eventually only deport felons.

The answer came in response to a question about the Obama administration’s immigration policy, which Biden has been criticized for.

Later asked whether undocumented immigrants arrested by local police should be turned over to immigration officials, Biden said no.

While viewers seem to be enjoying the lack of audience tonight, many are missing one aspect that has been present in all the debates up until now: Elizabeth Warren.

Some have also wished Warren was on stage so she could repeat her blistering performance in Las Vegas last month, where she very quickly dismantled Michael Bloomberg’s campaign.

Bernie Sanders declined to explicitly commit to choosing a woman as his running mate after Joe Biden said he would.

“In all likelihood, I will,” Sanders said when asked about whether he would choose a woman as his running mater. “My very strong tendency is to move in that direction.”

Sanders said it was important to him to choose a progressive running mate, but he acknowledged there are progressive women to choose from.

Biden vows to pick a woman as running mate

Joe Biden vowed to choose a woman as his running mate if he won the presidential nomination.

“There are a number of women who are qualified to be president tomorrow,” Biden said. “I would pick a woman to be my vice president.”

Biden also reiterated his first nominee to the Supreme Court would be an African-American woman, which would be a first for the country.

Debate so far

The debate has paused for a short commercial break. Here’s where things stand so far:

  • Most of the first hour of the debate unsurprisingly focused on the coronavirus crisis, as Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders criticized the Trump administration’s response and emphasized the need to confront the crisis and adhere to medical experts’ guidance.
  • The debate has been more contentious than many commentators expected, considering the unfolding crisis. There was a testy exchange where Sanders criticized Biden for his refusal to disavow a super PAC supporting his candidacy and his past comments on potential cuts to social security.
  • The candidates, both of whom are in the highest-risk age group for coronavirus, said they were taking precautions to limit their potential exposure to the virus.

The blog will have more coming up, so stay tuned.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders both pledged to support each other fully if the other person wins the nomination.

“If Bernie is the nominee, I will not only support him, I will campaign for him,” Biden said. “And I believe the people who support me will do the same thing because the existential threat to the United States of America is Donald Trump.”

Sanders reiterated he would support Biden if he wins the nomination, which seems increasingly likely, but the Vermont senator emphasized the need to still have serious discussions about important issues like climate change.

Bernie Sanders is 78 years old. Joe Biden is 77 years old. Both of them are also white and male, and both have been engaging in quite the shouting match so far. Sanders has also delighted viewers after telling debate viewers to “go to the YouTube” to research Biden’s record on social security.

Here’s how people are responding to the spectacle online:

Updated

Bernie Sanders has repeatedly returned to Joe Biden’s long voting record to criticize his opponent for his past support for controversial legislation like the 2005 bankruptcy bill.

Biden has responded by trying to pivot from looking at his voting record to focusing on the issues facing the country now.

“The question is: what do we do from this point on?” Biden said.

As the candidates clash over each other’s records, here’s the Guardian’s chief reporter Ed Pilkington on how Joe Biden backed a 2005 bill that stripped students of bankruptcy protections:

Biden and Sanders spar over super PACs and social security

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders just engaged in a testy exchange over super PACs and potential cuts to social security.

Biden defended the strength of his campaign by pointing to his recent string of primary victories despite Sanders’ dominant fundraisinfg.

Sanders responded by calling on Biden to disavow the super PAC supporting his candidacy, which the former vice president sidestepped.

Sanders then turned to criticizing Biden’s past comments suggesting he was open to cuts to entitlement programs.

Biden responded by accusing Sanders of releasing an attack ad on social security that inaccurately depicted his view on the issue.

Overall, the debate has been more contentious than many commentators predicted, considering the intensifying coronavirus crisis.

While answering the question about how he is limiting his potential exposure to coronavirus, Joe Biden tried to contrast his health to Bernie Sanders’.

“Well fortunately I don’t have any of the underlying conditions you talked about,” Biden said to CNN’s Dana Bash.

The line was a clear reference to Sanders’ heart attack in October, although it’s worth noting both candidates are in their late 70’s, putting them both in the highest-risk age group for coronavirus.

CNN’s Dana Bash asked the two candidates, both of whom are in their late 70’s and thus in the highest-risk age group for coronavirus, how they are limiting their potential exposure to the virus.

Bash pointed out that Bernie Sanders also had a heart attack in October, which leaves him even more vulnerable if he were to contract the virus.

However, Sanders said his campaign has done a sufficient job trying to limit person-to-person contact, hosting virtual events and adhering to CDC guidelines.

Joe Biden similarly said he has been very careful about hand-washing and using hand sanitizer, while also making most of his campaign events virtual events.

An emerging theme tonight has been the candidates mixing up coronavirus with other deadly diseases.

First of all Biden referred to coronavirus when he meant to say swine flu, then mispronounced H1N1 (which swine flu is also called).

It hasn’t gone unnoticed by Donald Trump Jr:

But Biden’s not the only one. Sanders later made a similar blunder, saying ebola instead of coronavirus, before blaming Biden for the error:

Bernie Sanders was asked whether he would support a bailout of industries affected by the coronavirus pandemic.

“We need to stabilize the economy, but we can’t repeat what we did in 2008,” said Sanders, who voted against the bank bailout during the financial crisis.

Joe Biden then defended his vote in favor of the bank bailout, but he said he agreed with Sanders that “someone should have gone to jail.”

Joe Biden is repeatedly arguing that the country needs to focus on combatting the coronavirus crisis before it turns to broader issues like healthcare and income inequality.

“People are looking for results, not a revolution,” Biden said to Bernie Sanders, who has argued the crisis demonstrates the need for systematic change.

Biden asserted the government needs to focus on “immediate needs” right now. “First things first,” Biden said.

Joe Biden said the country needs a “major, major, major bailout package” to help the American families who are financially affected by the coronavirus crisis.

“We do not reward corporations, we reward individuals who in fact are really put to the test here,” Biden said.

Due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak, this is the first Democratic debate in this primary season to not feature a live studio audience. Many viewers seem to prefer it:

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders both said they would deploy the US military to help confront the coronavirus crisis.

Trump has not yet taken that step, but senior administration officials said today that all options remain on the table.

The National Guard has already helped set up a “containment area” in New York’s Westchester County, which has seen a high number of coronavirus cases.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are sparring over whether the coronavirus crisis underscores the need for an overhaul of the US healthcare system.

Biden is essentially arguing that America needs to take extraordinary steps to combat the virus but not necessarily long-term steps toward changing our healthcare system.

Sanders is arguing that the current crisis underscores the problems inherent in the US healthcare system and demonstrates the need to switch to a single-payer system.

Joe Biden pushed back against Bernie Sanders’ argument that the coronavirus crisis demonstrates the need for a Medicare for all healthcare system.

Biden pointed out that Italy, which is seeing a spike in coronavirus cases and deaths, has a single-payer system, so the policy cannot prevent a pandemic, Biden said.

Bernie Sanders responded by pointing out that some experts have said the lack of a single, centralized healthcare system makes it harder to respond to such crises.

Bernie Sanders criticized Trump’s response to the coronavirus crisis, saying the president needs to defer more to medical experts.

Sanders said the most important step to take immediately was to “shut this president up right now.”

The Vermont senator accused the president of “undermining the doctors and the scientists who are trying to help the American people.”

Sanders then emphasized that the country needs to be ready to provide economic assistance to those who are likely to miss paychecks because of the closure and disruption of businesses amid the pandemic.

Updated

The moderators opened the debate by unsurprisingly confirming that much of tonight’s event would focus on the coronacirus crisis.

CNN’s Jake Tapper first turned to Joe Biden to ask what he would say to Americans who are dealing with the closure of businesses and schools as the crisis unfolds.

Biden said of the country’s response to coronavirus, “This is bigger than any one of us.” He called for a “national rallying” to combat the virus and demanded that more tests be immediately made available.

Biden’s answer on combatting coronavirus, which causes respiratory issues, was ironically interrupted a couple times by the former vice president coughing.

Democratic debate begins

The 11th Democratic debate, the first since the coronavirus crisis kicked into high gear in the United States, has now started.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders will soon start taking questions, most of them likely on the crisis.

Biden and Sanders tap elbows to greet each other

The Democratic debate will begin in just a few minutes, and Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders have now taken the stage.

With CDC guidelines advising against handshakes, the two candidates greeted each other by tapping elbows.

Because of the coronavirus crisis, tonight’s debate will take place without a live audience or a media spin room.

According to CNN’s Jake Tapper, one of the moderators tonight, this will be the first presidential debate between two candidates held in a television studio without a live audience since 1960.

Updated

Biden and Sanders emphasize threat of coronavirus as Trump downplays

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders have sought to underscore the seriousness of the coronavirus pandemic, as Trump has consistently downplayed the health threat.

Earlier this evening, at a White House press conference, Trump said the government has “tremendous control” over the virus. In contrast, Dr Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said moments later that the worst of the crisis was still yet to come in the US.

In contrast, Joe Biden delivered a speech Thursday afternoon saying Americans need to take serious steps and listen to medical experts to help combat the virus.

“We lead by science,” Biden said. “Downplaying it, being overly dismissive, or spreading misinformation is only going to hurt us and further advantage the spread of the disease.”

Bernie Sanders said in a Friday speech that the crisis demonstrated the need for the Medicare for all healthcare system he has championed, arguing the policy could save lives during the pandemic.

“We cannot live in a nation where if you have the money you get the treatment you need to survive, but if you’re working-class or poor, you get to the end of the line,” Sanders sais.

“In my view, the most cost effective way to reform our dysfunctional and cruel system is to move to a Medicare for all, single-payer healthcare system. ... And I think in the midst of this crisis, more and more Americans understand the truth of that.”

One Democratic presidential candidate will be missing from tonight’s debate stage: Tulsi Gabbard.

The Hawaii congresswoman has remained in the nominating contest, even though she has won only two pledged delegates compared to Joe Biden’s 890 and Bernie Sanders’ 736.

Given her low delegate total, Gabbard failed to qualify for tonight’s debate, which prompted her to accuse the Democratic National Committee of trying to “erase” her candidacy.

However, it’s important to note that Gabbard is currently registered at 3% in national polls, according to the RealClearPolitics average.

Despite his recent series of bruising losses, Bernie Sanders has refused to throw in the towel, saying this week that though he may be “losing the debate over electability”, he is a champion for the views of most younger voters and wants to influence the general election platform.

Nick Carter, Sanders’ political outreach director in 2016, told the New York Times the Vermont senator was “pivoting to ensure that the issues that he has built his political career around continue to be front and center in the political dialogue.

“I also think he has [at the] top of [his] mind ensuring his supporters and those unenthusiastic about a Biden candidacy don’t call it a day.”

Many in the Democratic establishment would prefer the independent from Vermont admit defeat and put his shoulder to the wheel for Biden.

In emails to the Guardian, Martin O’Malley, a former Baltimore mayor, Maryland governor and candidate for the presidential nomination, said he was “guessing, most kindly, that Bernie is thinking as quickly as Biden sprung back to political life, he could as easily stumble and so he has an obligation to hang in there.

“What he risks is that more and more people [see] his messiah veneer fall away and his hypocrisy on many issues – gun safety, immigration reform, Russia interference – will strip away his lovable old uncle persona.”

How to watch the debate

The next Democratic debate will begin in about thirty minutes, so here is how to watch tonight’s event:

The debate is being hosted by CNN and Univision and can be watched on CNN, CNN en Español, CNN International and Univision, as well as CNN’s homepage and apps.

CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash and Univision’s Ilia Calderón will moderate the debate.

The coronavorus pandemic is expected to dominate tonight’s debate, and the health threat is even affecting the layout of the debate stage.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders will face each other from podiums placed 6 feet apart, in accordance with CDC guidelines on social distancing as the number of US coronavirus cases rises.

Considering his delegate lead and string of recent victories, Joe Biden is already being treated like the presumptive nominee by some Democrats.

After the former vice president’s strong performance last Tuesday, several Democratic super PACs declared the nominating contest effectively over and said they would focus on the general election.

Speaking after his disappointing performance in last Tuesday’s primaries, Bernie Sanders said he would continue in the race, but he declined to launch an all-out attack against Biden.

Instead, Sanders said he would use tonight’s debate to press Biden on issues where they differ, such as healthcare, student debt and climate change.

“Joe, what are you going to do to end the absurdity of the United States of America being the only major country on earth where health care is not a human right?” Sanders said.

Some commentators said it appeared Sanders was giving Biden the opportunity to more effectively prepare for the debate, indicating tonight may be used more as a test for Biden before facing off against Trump in the general election rather than an ideological battle between the two candidates.

Joe Biden has opened up a signficant delegate lead over Bernie Sanders, after the former vice president’s string of recent primary victories.

According to the Guardian’s delegate count, Biden has won 890 pledged delegates, while Sanders has won 736. As a reminder, a candidate needs to win 1,991 delegates to secure the nomination.

Although the majority of states have not yet voted, Sanders is running out of time to change the direction of the race, considering the momentum Biden has from his wins in recent weeks.

Sanders will need a strong performance tonight if he wants to continue his campaign, and he will likely need Biden to turn in a weak showing as well. Otherwise, this race could be coming to a rapid end.

Four more states heading to the polls Tuesday

Tonight’s debate comes two days before four more states hold primaries on Tuesday.

Florida, Illinois, Ohio and Arizona will collectively award 577 pledged delegates on Tuesday.

Bernie Sanders speaks to a crowd in Chicago, Illinois, earlier this month.
Bernie Sanders speaks to a crowd in Chicago, Illinois, earlier this month. Photograph: Scott Olson/Getty Images

It could be a disappointing night for Bernie Sanders, who lost all four of the states when he ran against Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Some state polls also indicate Joe Biden has a significant edge heading into Tuesday. According to the RealClearPoliticals polling average of Florida, the most delegate-rich state voting on Tuesday, Biden leads by more than 40 points in the Sunshine State.

If Biden were to win in all four states, Sanders will likely face intensified calls for him to drop out of the race.

While Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders prepare to answer questions about coronavirus, the Trump administration just gave an update on the government’s response to the pandemic.

Vice President Mike Pence, who is leading the coronavirus task force, said the federal government would release updated guidelines tomorrow on social distancing as the number of US coronavirus cases rises.

Dr Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, would not rule out a possible nationwide shutdown of bars and restaurants, as some European countries have done.

Some states, including Illinois and Ohio, have already called for all bars and restaurants to close, and Pence said Americans should follow the guidelines set by their local and state officials.

For more updates on coronavirus, follow the Guardian’s live blog:

Biden and Sanders to debate amid coronavirus pandemic

Good evening, live blog readers!

The country is currently consumed by the response to the coronavirus pandemic, but tonight’s Democratic debate will still go on as scheduled.

Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden talk before a Democratic debate in Charleston, South Carolina.
Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden talk before a Democratic debate in Charleston, South Carolina. Photograph: Matt Rourke/AP

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders will face off in the first one-on-one debate of this election cycle at 8 pm ET in Washington.

Even the logistics of the debate have been affected by coronavirus. Tonight’s event will be conducted without a live audience or a media spin room, and it was moved from Phoenix to Washington to reduce cross-country travel.

With schools and businesses closing and the number of coronavirus cases rising, it seems virtually certain that much of the debate will focus on how to best combat the pandemic.

However, tonight’s debate may also be Sanders’ last chance to turn the tide of the race and defeat Biden. The Vermont senator has suffered a string of bruising losses in recent weeks, and he needs a strong performance tonight (as well as a dismal showing from Biden) if he wants any chance at the nomination.

The debate will kick off in about an hour and a half, so stay tuned.

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