While discussing The Royals
Abhinandan: You’re saying Bhumi Pednekar is good in this? Is she the redeeming factor?
Rajyasree: No, she's horrible in this…But it has worked in her favour because everyone has logged on and watched the show.
Abhinandan: Why?
Rajyasree: Because it’s so bad. Everyone trashed it so everyone logged on and watched it.
This and a whole lot of awful and awesome as Abhinandan Sekhri and Rajyasree Sen discuss the series The Royals, the documentary Flintoff, and multiple subscriber letters. Abhinandan also recommends his new favourite Punjabi song.
Have something to say? Write to us at newslaundry.com/podcast-letters.
Timecodes
00:00 - Introductions and announcements
01:43 - Headlines
11:15 - Letters
19:42 - The Royals
30:03 - Subscriber letters
41:23 - Flintoff
49:40 - Letters
57:37 - Abhinandan recommends a Punjabi song
References
Cannes like you've never seen it before | BBC Global
A Friendship, a Pandemic and a Death Beside the Highway
Upamanyu Chatterjee’s interview
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Rajyasree: Hello, hello. This is the OR and awesome entertainment wrap episode 3 87. This Radish and
Abhinandan: this AB Sacred with um, 11 emails. Some we did not read of last week. So actually we have to finish those. And a week where there were a lot of releases, including the release of the people we interviewed in the last OR and Awesome.
And we haven't watched that film yet. I will watch
Rajyasree: it.
Abhinandan: Congratulations. You should get GPI award.
Rajyasree: I will watch it. 'cause you won't be here to watch it. Yes, but I've told that I will go and watch it.
Abhinandan: So, uh, before, well, we'll be reviewing the Royals and a documentary called Flintoff on Crickets, which is
Rajyasree: on.
No,
Abhinandan: then
Rajyasree: it's on the [00:01:00] Flintstones
Abhinandan: and it says, A documentary offers intimate. Look at the life and career of Andrew Freddy from Flint. I dunno why ri san is wanting to in review a documentary on cricket. But anyway, there must, you must be a very good reason. I'm dying to hear it. But before we do that, just wanna remind you, we take no ads, which is why we can say what we want.
We do not have to pan it to anyone. We don't have to pan it to any advertiser. We don't have to pan it to any, uh, you know, cooperation. So here's a QR code support our journalism. A bunch of subscribers have written this time that they support our journalism, even if it's for this podcast, which is not really news and little news that comes as often inaccurate thanks to Vu.
But don't
Rajyasree: talk about yourself in this manner. In this manner, I must.
Abhinandan: So here is the QR code, please. Subscribe, pay to keep ministry. 'cause when the public pays, the public is served. So Rashan, before we get into the reviews,
Rajyasree: yes,
Abhinandan: you have headlines. We have very good headlines this week.
Rajyasree: We have very good headlines.
This week [00:02:00] in good news, Wan's uh, home Bound with Stars Han Qatar, Al Jet. And, uh, John r Kaur premiered at Kane, not Kane. In better news, the film drew a nine minutes standing ovation from the
Abhinandan: audience. But in bad news, it has been produced by Kran Johar, which I guess is good 'cause he's backing good cinema.
But I think my problem is that he uses this as an excuse to push his trashy cinema. But again, Rashi has corrected me on something she has no clue about. It is scan. In fact, listen to A, B, B, C. Okay, why don't you first interrupt me, then I'll start talking again.
Rajyasree: I haven't even said a word. Did I see you were about to, you were about to.
No, I was putting my hand up I guess. Okay.
Abhinandan: Like this. You generally talk like this. I generally talk like this. So a, when I had gone to CAN for a festival, I asked them there, they said it is can they've residents of Cannes. Then the BBC bulletin where done a, they've done a special on can have addressed this [00:03:00] because there are many people like you who will either character it's can not can, and you said there is no, they say if you are from this area,
Song: you
Abhinandan: will call it can people from some other parts of France call it ka?
They also do, but here it is. Can both are correct. But locally we call it can, but what is wrong is cans or cans. And this I will, the link to that BBC podcast is in the show notes below, and you should also listen to that. But
Rajyasree: in my defense, I'm not from Canne, I'm from other parts of France. Will you
Abhinandan: correct me then?
Rajyasree: So I say can, so it's not incorrect. I'm not saying
Abhinandan: you shouldn't say can, but when I said Canne,
Rajyasree: that's okay. You all, you corrected me. No, you're always correct. You
Abhinandan: corrected me. You see the beauty. She saying you're always correct. I'm saying I'm not always correct. I, I'm telling you that what I said was not incorrect.
But you insisted on corrected. I correct you.
Rajyasree: Of course you corrected me.
Abhinandan: I I just told you what the pronunciation is, but you corrected
Rajyasree: me. [00:04:00]
Abhinandan: Okay. You're right. Raan. Brilliant. No,
Rajyasree: I've just said that. Genius. You this thing. So since we started on an argument, we'll carry on now in, do you wanna take the next headline
Abhinandan: in?
Good News, Tom Cruise's New Mission Impossible. The final reckoning broke the franchisees record and became the biggest opener in the MI series.
Rajyasree: In Meta news, Cruz will hopefully stop making any more sequels given that he's like 85.
Abhinandan: Has he won an Academy Award
Rajyasree: for Mission Impossible? No. For anything? Yeah.
Born on the 4th of July.
Abhinandan: No, he didn't win. No. That was his biggest, this thing that he didn't win then, though
Rajyasree: he'll carry on making Mission Impossible. Maybe this is how he's, I think he won, but
Abhinandan: he'll just check.
Rajyasree: Oh, he's only got nominated many, many times. He's never won. Hmm. In bad news, HIRA Peri is stuck in limbo after Paris, Rahal decided to quit the film.
Abhinandan: In good news, that means one less Kumar film hitting screens all the rash. And I just wanna see how up to date you have with the news on Hira Perri. Uh, do you know now what the reason that [00:05:00] the Paris team has cited that he Yes. What?
Rajyasree: Because I also read Gga times Liter. What appears in Delhi Times appears in Gga Times.
One day later
Abhinandan: you read the Delhi Times. In Gau Times said, no, I'm
Rajyasree: saying the same thing. So what is the reason? Because he was not given a script. He was not given, he kept asking for a script and he was not given a script. He was told no, the script will country I act. I then he was told to shoot a promo, which he said, I still ask for the script.
And I still was not given a script. Then I said, I am doing Kati and I will not make film on it.
Abhinandan: But there's another technicality, the guy who made hair up, Harry one, which is uh, I think Pri Sja Nala the producer. Huh? He has sent a legal notice or some representation to all of them that he owns the rights to the title and to those characters.
So Kumar cannot produce it. He has the rights and par first. You figure out who has the rights, but part two is produced. By whom? By Saji. See this much? I have not done then you [00:06:00] are. I cannot spend so much time investigating. No. I think we should put one of our investigative journalists. Yeah. Onto Ra Perry to find out exactly what would you want us to, and then it's say,
Rajyasree: not project and then's, not projects, not project
Abhinandan: Crack journalists who have won awards for electoral bonds issues.
The, you know, how public money spent by public sector units such amazing journalism has done. Yeah. We should put two of a finest on,
Rajyasree: because this will be a test of. Resolve to work at News Laundry. You always have to have, you can't always have, like even if you work in any, say in a PR agency, I used to have 15 fabulous clients.
And then I was given a spa in Sat Jcl, and I asked the COI said, why should I do this?
Abhinandan: Because for the other 14,
Rajyasree: he said, why should you not? I said, this is very traumatic. You know, the owner of this firm.
Abhinandan: So after this Raan, we will have an edit meeting. Yeah. And I'll request Manisha Muhammad Ram. Well, you're doing that.
Raan oversee this meeting and [00:07:00] give the new investigations. Yeah. To the journalist. I
Rajyasree: think it should, because everyone has to do that time. In bad news, the Herma productions, the Hauk two was cleared with the UA certificate by CBFC after as many as 16 cuts.
Abhinandan: In worst news, these cuts focused on caste based discrimination through slurs and violence.
Now of course, there's a remake of the Tamal film per Peral, but, uh. You know, this is not given enough time. What, we should actually have a discussion on this, on hafta or maybe an OR and awesome sense. Mm-hmm. Why should or, and awesome only be frivolous.
Rajyasree: I don't think we are frivolous. What a thing to buy.
Are you carrying on Pissing me off today? It's not a frivolous podcast. It's very serious. There's a seriousness in the frivol. Frivolity.
Abhinandan: Frivolity. Okay. No, I am just saying that. I mean, if you really think about it. Mm-hmm. This film, then the other film where they had said, don't mention, uh, RI and Les, that you cannot mention cause discrimination.[00:08:00]
I mean, it is like erasing Yeah. The history and no mainstream medias discussing it is I think a very profound problem. It is. I mean, it's existential. In fact, as far as a, a cultural history context is concern, and yet we will have debates on x, Y, z tweeted this, so and so tweeted this on prime time, but this, which is so important and so huge.
Rajyasree: Why even that other film is not gonna be released in India because of the caste references. Osh
Abhinandan: osh. Right. Even
Rajyasree: homebound will. So I really don't think homebound will get released in India because, uh, it's based on Bahar pi, their article, which is about during the lockdown for lockdown deniers like Holocaust deniers, uh.
Uh, there were these two boys who were friends. One is a Muslim boy and one, uh, is a Dali boy, a Dali boy. The, [00:09:00] and they started that walk back to, uh, go back to the village and they die. One of them dies and there was a picture taken where that one friend was cradling the other and trying to put water into his mouth.
He didn't realize he dead, that he died. He was dying. I think then, but it is not going to, there is no way that this film is going to be, I will be shocked if it's released. In fact, we should,
Abhinandan: I'll make a note that we should do a profile of the CB ffc. Yeah. What these people who actually give certification and cuts, I think that'll be interesting that, that, that should be a story.
And someone had given that admit, you must recommend this.
Rajyasree: No, my first pa, I'm sorry. My focus is hira.
Abhinandan: Hmm. Okay.
Rajyasree: You do all this. Okay. I don't want to do all these boring things like this.
Abhinandan: I don't.
Song: Right.
Abhinandan: So, um, on that note, rad sheen. Yes. I must admit I haven't seen anything.
Rajyasree: This is so shocking to me that I don't, I need a moment [00:10:00]
Abhinandan: to absorb the shock.
Yeah. A shock absorber. Yeah. I'm really shock absorber from best shock absorber. Thought Theis shock absorber. Ri There's also good called rahi.
Rajyasree: Yes. Ab, you've posted it on Instagram.
Abhinandan: Why you accusing me? It's not my factory. Theres a brand. No, you posted
Song: tagging
Abhinandan: me my, I landed in B, ladies and gentlemen. I landed B 21 degrees.
I joke, then I go to the airport, I send a taxi as I'm leaving. I am from Delhi, which was horrible. A QI al blue Skyes. Lovely everything. I love Popal. Why? Why? Because
Rajyasree: is part of the Popal Royal family. But that's not right. Popal is.
Abhinandan: He should have been cast as Ali in Sure. But, and I'm driving and there's this big hoarding with Salman Khan holding a packet like this, ri whatever or [00:11:00] whatever it is.
Rajyasree: So
Abhinandan: I was like, dude, I've come away from work on a break toal for some family thing and, but I'm there always there. Salman Khan Ri I'm always there cluttering the blue pristine skyline. So I took a picture and posted it.
Rajyasree: I've also got some pictures of you. I'm gonna post those pictures. Okay. Done with a funny, funny caption even I can think of.
Okay. But, uh, shall we do a letter first? Let's, we'll start with the ones from last week, which we didn't. There have few which we didn't read. Mm. Uh, re has written dear a and REI think you should spin your reviews as a random element. It's very random because it's like a leap here. Maybe review the latest thing or something from Netflix years ago.
Totally chaotic and unpredictable. Uh, I hope you haven't reviewed Dual Thief, and if you did, I don't know what you ended up breaking your head or your laptop. It was a total brain [00:12:00] killer. Sorry, R but I think safe is com. Competing with a sun for who can make the worst movie of the year. Don't be mean to a sun, is the poor thing.
On a better note, RI think you'd really like the series When Lives Give You a Tan. Life gives you tangerines. I have to watch it. Someone else also told me on the horror series, half note Horror series, cough is horrible. Mm. Niku let's give it five to eight years before you. Uh, this thing, your mention of Ella reminded me of the song Love Doors.
Hmm. And I recommend Softly by KA kara o.
Abhinandan: So I love softly, by the way, love the bans. Always regards Spin. Ri uh, I'm just curious, why did you put your name as ri? Uh, is it a joke that I missed? But first of all, thank you for your support and all that Softly is a really good song, which I think I recommended.
It is
look, basically she's saying, [00:13:00] please die. Please dite the patta, the same color as your, uh, turban, as your, uh, Ferrari.
Rajyasree: Punjabi. Not the best.
Abhinandan: It's a beautiful song. It's lovely. You must
Rajyasree: be actually like King now that I think of it. '
Abhinandan: cause IBI music.
Rajyasree: Yeah. Yeah. It's that time. I can imagine You're on a date with Ella and you're listening to Punjabi music.
Abhinandan: First of all, she's not Punjabi, so she won't even understand Punjabi music setting. Setting is like that. I just like to say we were having dinner at sri's house, um, and some
Rajyasree: mean thing you're
Abhinandan: gonna say last night
Rajyasree: and this is what Aand then just picked up a matches and just lit it across my arm. And I said, don't do that.
We have a podcast.
Abhinandan: But then, so we got talking as usual because there were three Bengalis there and I was the only Punjabi and started boasting about how much Bengali has given to the world, how much is, so I was quietly just eating my dinner and after a while I said, can you just name me [00:14:00] five? Bengali artists, uh, poet, of course Guruve on Guru's coattails.
All Bengali is hanging and living till today. So they struggled with the not two names and then they stopped. What? No.
Song: Hmm.
Abhinandan: I rattled off five Punjabis and of course they only mentioned men Ham. She,
Rajyasree: that's man. Now
Abhinandan: these are making, you don't know She bats. Dear God, we name, you know Manto name? Yes. I, so I named Seven eight Punjabis, who have given us the best poetry, best literature, best art, best cultures best. So this myth that Punjab has not given, actually Punjab has given more as far as culture and literature is concerned than Bengal.
Bangladesh put together, but we don't boast about it because we like having fun
Rajyasree: because y'all are doing agriculture and hor culture. So y'all are [00:15:00] not talking about deep culture, that's why. Huh? So
Abhinandan: those of you who can rattle off 10, literally, I,
Rajyasree: I'll tell you just now. Yesterday we were being nice to you.
Abhinandan: Name
Rajyasree: Shahan, UR Rai, uh, then, uh, no, I, new singers, dancer, Shankar. Ravi Shankar is about bong all their family. Okay.
Doesn't
we to. Ris if you're gonna go
Abhinandan: into cinema, no. Punjab has built Bollywood. It has built, but B Isan
Rajyasree: is from Punjab.
Abhinandan: I dunno where he's from. [00:16:00] Bollywood is because of Punjabis.
Rajyasree: I'm not talking about and ta Millions boats. I'm cinema and I'm both. I'm talking about World. Tamils
Abhinandan: and Punjabis have built Bollywood.
Rajyasree: I'm just saying we don't want to most, that's why we did not name names yesterday. Hmm. When Na ka has, uh, written, did you have to reveal who the dual thief was? It was so much suspense though. The only good things that could come out of this new show was that people would go and watch the original one and ab then you gave it away.
Oh, that ti that ju terrible. So many fantastic songs from Achi hair to Shalu. Mm. I couldn't believe the ro could Jews Ti over the Gorgeous. So, uh, this thing, uh, Tanja is one of my favorite actresses
Abhinandan: and Alah is one of my favorites. So, but that's also because she's probably bong, right?
Rajyasree: She used to play golf Alah.
I just want to, this is random tri trivia. I can give you a [00:17:00]
Abhinandan: Then anonymous says, as someone working in the Indian film industry, I wanna share this. Directors are deeply emotional about their work. The whole project runs on this energy and passion. A film success of failure is personal to them, this rise.
Great filmmakers without the lack of sincerity shows on screen, but emotional intelligence and openness to criticism are rare. Isn't this also true in journalism? Years ago, I worked on a film by renounced senior director. I watched the first cut and perhaps naively told him I didn't like it. He could have fired me.
Instead, he revised the edit. The film became a major box of his success. Such secure directors are rare. Even today. He remembers me for speaking. Honestly. I'm not sure if that I'd have the guts to do it again. Lastly, I request that you also acknowledge cinematographer, the visual storytelling you admire is our contribution to sincerely cinematographer.
So absolutely, I completely agree with you, that kinda emotional intelligence, awareness and maturity. And, but, but upon is showing a bigness that I can take criticism is very rare in directors. So congratulations, you worked with one. I completely agree. We should [00:18:00] acknowledge cinematographers. We sometimes do, at least when I read the credits, I do.
Rajyasree: No, we do say sometimes I give the wrong name for the cinematographer, but I mentioned
Abhinandan: Okay, I'm sorry that
Rajyasree: the cinematography is very good. I'm then I mentioned the director's name instead of the cinematographer,
Abhinandan: but, uh, you are, you're right on that. Uh, but you know, regarding what you said, isn't this robot journalists as well actually, um, I've, I've said this on hafta a few times, the.
Problem with, uh, journalism in India and many of these people are my friends. And, uh, it has been run by a historically, by very small co entitled, yeah, Cory. These people are from a particular kind of background and I admit I'm one of them. Of course financially I don't come from such a great background, but social access and the this thing, they probably come from Dune.
Well, these public schools, they all know each other. I mean, I got a job at News Track because of my connections, not because, 'cause at 20, [00:19:00] what the fuck can I go to Mother and say, oh, hire me, I'm great. No, it's 'cause I'm so and so friends or whatever, someone. So now that lot. Uh, so it's not because it's very personal.
They're not used to criticism. They come from backgrounds where they're told you are wonderful. You deserve the access you have. You deserve the privilege you have. It has nothing to do with privilege. You're so good because you're brilliant, which or not. So that personality type cannot take criticism. So whether they were chartered accountants or journalists or anything, ah,
Rajyasree: whatever career
Abhinandan: that pomposity that they have.
Uh, would not be able to handle criticism no matter what they did. It's just that journalism is in the pub. If they were cas, it's not like everyone's seeing this Oh, beautifully balanced book. No one sees it, so they don't care. But if they're, how do we know what cas, but if anything, but if they are doing anything that is public facing, they can't handle criticism.
I, I agree with you. So rash, I'll come to all the emails later. You tell us about, um, [00:20:00] the Royal Royal after telling me last week, it's very bad. You have still wanted to review it. So now explain. I will do my bit. It is directed by Priyanka Ho and Ana starring Qatar. Fathi Han. Do you know? Oh, okay. You
Rajyasree: Kenny,
Abhinandan: my god.
These are blasts from the pasts.
Rajyasree: Yeah.
Abhinandan: Returns. Pasts. Yeah.
Rajyasree: Many pasts.
Abhinandan: And, um, the, sorry, let me finish the credits.
Rajyasree: Uh.
Abhinandan: So it's created by Ranita PR and Ista pr, written by Neha Vina Sharma, and directed by Priyanka Ho and Ana. And the cinematographer uhs name is not given because it's a multi-camera setup.
It's not one cinematographer the way conventional cinema is shot. So I guess that's why cinematographer, so that's why we are not naming, because IMD and the others don't have a cinematographer credit. So Achi, now that I've done my bit
Rajyasree: Yes, which was very important,
Abhinandan: which was too, now you, your bit was watching it and [00:21:00] reviewing it.
Rajyasree: Yeah, so it's an eight episode series and everyone should watch it because it's so bad that it's not even good. Usually when it's really like Bollywood wise, you
Abhinandan: can do a cringe fist.
Rajyasree: Yeah, it, this
Abhinandan: is really bad. It's inep bad. It's like, yeah, it's like cold tea.
Rajyasree: No, also you're like, you have this lineup of like, Melin, Soman, Dino Maria, who's looking, I'm not a big Dino fan, but he's actually looking really nice.
So it's set. He always nice.
Abhinandan: But he was, he, he's
Rajyasree: done a few film early, which he was a shit actor. Roz, he did Roz and something else. But no, I'm saying I'm not a fan of Dino. Like I prefer Milman, who was really good looking. Yeah, of course. D and I prefer his looks, but Dino is a good looking guy that nobody can say he's not.
But basically it's about the Royals, a royal family in Raan, in a place called Ur and uh, Ishan, [00:22:00] Qatar is playing. One of the sons and they are, there's a daughter. They are basically three children. The Father Milman has died. Hmm. And the father's wife was, uh, Sakhi, who was from, uh, not Kki, SAR, the other one.
Kahani. She was the mean, uh, woman in that, the main actress in that. So, and Zina, the man, praise the Raj Han, praise the brother and c Han, who I've seen before, praise the sister. And, uh, they've all come to Mor put, they all live in Mor. Put this, Han Qatar is playing one of those spoiled, uh. Princes who travels the world, lives in New York, doesn't do anything to earn a living, and has lots of girlfriends.
And he comes to UR because his father's will [00:23:00] is to be read out. And at the same time, there's a parallel track that Boomi Picnicker is, uh, the CEO of her pr. Uh. Like a marketing agency, not a PR agency, an agency. And, uh, she basically decides to make a, a hospitality group, which is going to have palaces in them as hotels.
But the USP is that you will live with the royal family. All you see is the lives of these royals and how idiosyncratic and all they are, and how Boomi maker, uh, decides to make this into a hotel. And basically interactions with them and her romance with a Sean Cutter. So she basically, they show that a female CEO of a company is, uh, not only sleeping with the client, she's also sleeping with her colleague, who's the CEO.
[00:24:00] And, uh, when she gets upset, like she says in the middle of her pitch and all that, I'm just not going to. Like walking out meetings and all, because that's how it rolls basically. And so Ish is there as her, you don't
Abhinandan: have to give us the full story in detail. You can tell us the basic plot. No, I haven't.
You can tell us. It's one 50th of the story. Oh, dear God. Okay. Hmm.
Rajyasree: So, uh, so ish plays her attendant, uh, assistant and is very, like, quite funny, but it is such a badly scripted story that neither do you find them funny, nor do you find Zina the man's character, which is supposed to be like those slightly out of touch with reality.
Maharani who is saying, where's my caveat? That kind of thing. Uh, that she seems cute of fun. She also cannot act at all. The man was never known for her acting crowd. [00:25:00] So that has stayed constant. It has not improved over time. Mil Soman is there a lot, but in flashbacks, because he is dead, but they have him as Sean Qatar keeps remembering things.
Uh, this thing. And there's a lot of L-G-B-T-Q-I. So the princess is gay, Mel Soman is gay. Uh, like everyone, quite a few people are gay in the, this thing in the show, but. One, it doesn't make sense. No royal family with such a large palace and with so many jewels and all that are bankrupt to today. Well, you don't
Abhinandan: know.
Of course there
Rajyasree: are no, no bankrupt to the point where, but saying that we won't leave the palace, but we do. So they are earning money How, like frauds by doing a fashion show. I don't know what fashion show they have come across, but I know that you can't possibly be running and ajani are there as a people who designed for the fashion show.
So it's just very blah. [00:26:00] It's very badly scripted. Han Cutter looks very nice because they have him without his shirt, so that is the hook. Any scene they can put him in without a shirt. He's without a shirt.
Abhinandan: So the really good, I think, um, satirical take and observation commentary on the Royals of India is done by Ji.
His, uh, last book novels on which him also the harsh of the uncaring. See the last story? It's about one of these royals who goes to Oxford, Cambridge, whatever, and he comes back. It's, it's, it's really nicely written. He, he has an eye for stuff like that. Uh, maybe they should make that into a film. It'll be more interesting then.
But I'm, I'm a little, um, you know, disappointed with how, uh, Boomi, er,
Rajyasree: who has an identical twin, she has an identical twin. An identical twin Rumi, so Rumi, Rumi, and Boomi. So you really can't make out the, the team has, because I [00:27:00] clearly have, I'm very observant. 'cause you're not,
Abhinandan: is is this FactCheck?
Rajyasree: This is FactCheck.
I did not get drunk and then looked at Boomi and said, oh, I can see two of them was written. No, it's FactCheck.
Abhinandan: Oh, if it's FactCheck, then I, I'm not taking any responsibility for that bit of news. I have no. Knowledge of this, but she had done some really good cinema and she, even from now time to time, does some great, uh, films and roles.
But every now and then, she'd do like that, uh, that dance sequence with the Arjun Kaur. Um, I forget the song. It was a remix of some old song. I couldn't even wonder. So, but you're saying she's good in this, she's the redeeming factor.
Rajyasree: No, I'm saying she's horrible in this. I'm saying it's worked in her favor.
And Han Qatar, I don't think really needs to be too bothered about the, uh, hit or not that, uh, everyone has logged on and watched the show. So the numbers have gone up because it's so bad. Everyone trashed it, so [00:28:00] everyone logged on. So Netflix is, it's like Bollywood wives. We are very
Abhinandan: happy if you, so I haven't done anything that's But you'll watch
Rajyasree: now?
Abhinandan: Now I won't.
Rajyasree: Now. No reason now I won't. It's done. Nikker twin sister's name is Sam Sharp Nikker. She's a lawyer.
Abhinandan: Very good.
Rajyasree: Okay. They have very differ. No, but Boomi used to be an excellent, uh, casting agent for this thing, for not for Thema, the other production house, but it is so, so. Nora Fat, she's might be the best part of this.
Abhinandan: Oh, really?
Rajyasree: So she plays a princess.
Abhinandan: Hmm.
Rajyasree: And, uh, whose mother? Whose father is that guy? Uh, Ali k Ali Kaner, that guy. Oh.
Abhinandan: Back from, who's
Rajyasree: always like a villain.
Abhinandan: So he played laman in AM's hair. I watched it. You must've been like 12. No.
Rajyasree: Yeah, I was 12 and I watched it and the seats moved. Remember? Yeah. The whole [00:29:00]
Abhinandan: platform.
Yes. I remember because I was in college, I was an adult,
Rajyasree: so I I'm the same age as you were. I just looked 12 years younger.
Abhinandan: So you're the same age as me. But you were 12, right? You, you, I, I, so I got like quad promotion. I had reached college at the age of 12. You were
Rajyasree: genius after it that, so I tell you, every time I meet you, you tell me, tell me I'm a genius.
Then I tell you, you're a genius. It makes you feel better. But Nora Fat, he is basically, Ali Khan is trying to get. Like do a royal marriage between Han and this thing. But she is actually quite good because like you also have maybe expectations from Les as well, but this Zina Aman is just so disappointing.
And you, Kenny, I think just uh, like he comes and does five minute rolls where he's uh, like you watch it because he is right vj, but there's gonna be a season two, so,
Abhinandan: okay. So [00:30:00] there's a twist in the game. We'll then not watch it then.
Rajyasree: So I'm sorry there's laughing. Right? Okay. Right. You are used to women only laughing like that.
Never trust someone who laughs like that.
Abhinandan: So, Hmm. So. Another email is from Sneha. Hi Sneha. Uh, Sneha says hello. I was unsure where to send this letter, but I settle for a and a, uh, I guess because she didn't know where to send for hafta or,
Song: yeah,
Abhinandan: for starters, you'll ha, you'll, you'll, you swamped, swamped with mail on hafta.
Secondly, this is about pop culture on Hafta, Abana mention, and then viewership has been between 25 and 50 years, and rare, largely male. I feel you need to create curate content that would rope in teenagers and young adults. Nobody's talking sense to them. Not even their parents take a leaf outta the current government's playbook and trying to impose their belief system via schools and colleges.
The brainwashing can only be resisted by thoughtful. [00:31:00] Counterculture, the same effort is needed for engaging more women. Perhaps a podcast talk about women's problems, experiences their solutions for a country's issues. I would like to recommend a show that is relevant to both these cohorts. It's brilliant and funny.
It's called We Are Lady Parts. Okay, sounds interesting.
Rajyasree: This ones no. Is it not?
Abhinandan: So, uh, I Sneha, I agree with you on the bit that we can do stuff that, by the way, out of all the stuff that News, laundry, uh, produces the only one that has a demographic where more women listen and watch than men. Is this podcast
Rajyasree: really?
It must be you who have you? No, I'm also, no, but there are others who have overshared, only one
Abhinandan: person. So, um, but the bit about. Uh, school kids and college kids. I mean, I, I would like to give this a little more thought because you have made a very convincing case, but whenever I go and, um, invited as a
Song: [00:32:00] keynote
Abhinandan: speaker or something, or the other at these colleges and schools, my recommendation to them is don't consume news.
Uh, tell you are like, unless you're taking A-U-P-S-C exam or anything, because I don't think, um, anything good will come out of it. You know, consume sports, consume even pop culture. So political and propaganda, but, you know, consume junk. Think about it, read books. But I actually discourage, uh, kids from consuming news.
I dunno if it's a good thing or a bad, but. That's what I've been saying. So in case one video of mine pops up at some lecture at some school, and I'm saying, when some child asks me, where should you get a news? I say, don't consume news. It'll do you no good. Enjoy life, go out, play a sport, fly a kite. So that's what my position been so far.
I know you would probably think that's very responsible thing to do, but that's been my position. That's all I'm saying.
Rajyasree: So I feel when we were growing up, we worked, you still actually always, always evolving. Uh, we were told to read newspapers to [00:33:00] improve our writing skills and language skills and, but now you can read newspapers because they are written.
The English is so terrible. And, uh, but I do think every, so I think you should not consume news, but you should know what is happening in current affairs. Because sometimes I meet kids and you'll see something like, you'll say. Or what's happening in Israel is, and they look at you like, what are you talking about?
So you should know what is happening. You don't have to consume the way adults consume, even I don't consume you that well. But how they know
Abhinandan: that, you know, the thing is that I, like, I'll give you an example of today's newspaper. Um, I just think that sure, you should have a certain awareness of the world you live in, even if you are young.
And, you know, pop culture is one way of knowing what's happening. But today's newspaper has a report of, uh, Dali, uh, woman, 45-year-old who was raped and died. And they had described how she was brutalized. Not in detail, [00:34:00] but, but they had, I would not want any child to read that. It was on the front page. Now it's no one's fault.
I think that report should not have been on the front page. Should have been a headline.
Rajyasree: Yeah.
Abhinandan: Uh, I think the reason it got a side little thing is because she was in a village had this happened.
Song: Hmm.
Abhinandan: And I'm not doing competitive brutality, I'm just saying there is a certain hierarchy of how things are.
Mm-hmm. I don't see what good comes if a child has to read that report. So, which is why I don't encourage children to read the newspaper. I tell them to go to the last page, read the sports page, and then read a book. So that's the reason I think, and it's no one's fault news must report all this, but do children have to read it?
No,
Rajyasree: no. Also, I do think that because this is something that did happen in newspapers and newspapers primarily after the December 16th gang rape that had happened, uh, it became a beat that, you know, someone was assigned to. Police stations to check what rapes have happened and so on. The [00:35:00] reporting on rapes went up.
Song: Hmm.
Rajyasree: So that, I agree that when you open the paper, even when I'm reading it, it's like, rape, rape, murder, murder, murder, rape, murder. And then there's some news on, uh, Modi has gone, uh, somewhere in his, uh, new car. But, uh, I still think that you should be, when I'm saying current affairs, but then how do they select what is, like, how will you read something?
Yeah. But I think that's
Abhinandan: entirely up to, uh, the parents or the guardians with the Yeah. The, the, where the child grows up and that a platform cannot kind of provide that in the sense that we've had interns here, Risan, you've seen, we've had some interns, in fact one who was in Class 11 when he started coming to us, the guy knew more about what's happening in Ukraine and Russia and how it, what is nato?
White. Yeah. More, he knew more than some post grads who've come. You can't explain why that kid knows more. Yeah, probably he in his home, they discuss this or [00:36:00] whatever else it is. So, but yeah, I think let's get back to one moment, but I think
Rajyasree: that everyone, adults and children read fiction. This thing of not reading fiction and so then
Abhinandan: we can just have a print version of Awesome and all the news you give and that,
Rajyasree: whatever.
That also is fine if I read that
Abhinandan: now before Rahi, uh, tells us about Flintoff and why she suggested we should review it. NATA says Hiri love this podcast for the wonderful comradery you both have. There are a couple of Alam movies I wanted to recommend. Ka. I think Al is, I think if it's a Alam word, it probably means the core.
But in il al means love, right? Kalan lover. That's correct me if I'm wrong, that, yeah. Uh, then ki all three touch upon different issues. The last one is [00:37:00] more mystery than social commentary. I, I found these movies watchable mainly because they treat the audience with respect and don't explain every single action or emotion with the character.
It's sad. A lot of Bollywood films just assume the audience needs to be spoonfed. Ome would fit into the mold of a mass movie where it's one man against the world. But despite that, the movie does justice to the theme. I wonder how we can make people appreciate better cinema, which isn't highbrow than what Bollywood is churning out.
Nata that's very few films can actually strike that balance, which are mass and yet a good cinema. But for our audience, NATA has recommended three Mallala films, two room. Ka and ki
Rajyasree: and both, uh, this, I know at least that Ka and ki are online on Amazon or somewhere because I've seen the, uh,
Abhinandan: posters. Right.
Do you want to read a couple of mails before you tell us? Yeah.
Rajyasree: Anonymous has written. I really hope you [00:38:00] discuss the Royal soon. See, that's why. What the people are, and I almost
Abhinandan: worked on the show.
Rajyasree: Yeah, I worked on the show and as someone who was present every day of the shoot and deeply involved in the production, I can't wait for you guys to dismember it.
When I first read the script and all through the shoot, I didn't have much hope for it. Now, when I watched it a year later, I actually enjoyed it. Maybe you have Stockholm syndrome.
Song: Hmm.
Rajyasree: The start was weak, but for me it picked up. Once we get to. Port, more port. It was difficult to get through the last two episodes and I felt some plot line.
She have been flushed out a lot more waiting to hear what you guys have to say. Ps I can write a whole other letter about shooting with Boomi's lips. So her lip, what's the show been Botox so much that it's,
Abhinandan: this is fake news or it's, no, it's, it's confirmed.
Rajyasree: It's confirmed. And now she's, uh, started addressing the criticism also because it's, if you get whatever, even if you get collagen put, if you, sometimes people overdo it [00:39:00] and sometimes it doesn't settle.
It has a settle also and become a little flatter. So it's very scary.
Abhinandan: So if you alternate cosmetic surgery advice, Dr. San who is an expert and everything Yeah. Can tell you how it settles. And so it's like cement madam. Settle on it though. It's like that. It's like that on you don't know anything. So basically, basically, you know, nothing.
Al mystery and are doing same job can al mystery. If
Rajyasree: you should ing gel in his work. Then, uh, then anonymous second anonymous has, uh, mentioned no first
Abhinandan: anonymous. Do write to me up gmail.com and tell me what exactly you did for the film. Trust me, we get a lot of, um, information from. Very serious political functionaries to, so we maintain very strict confidentiality.
I will not go tell anyone, anyone. I'm just curious what [00:40:00] department you worked in. Hmm.
Rajyasree: Yeah, so hello Abna and Rahi. Just wanted to say that I recently subscribed to News Laundry because I wanted to keep news free, but let me just put it out there that your, your show and nuisance were the only two shows podcasts that push me to take that decision.
I know that once Hannan mentioned in an episode that he might stop the show if he didn't pull enough subscribers. I think it's safe to see that's not the case. I always look forward to your episodes and the banter that it comes with. Keep up. The great work folks. Thank you.
Abhinandan: Thank you, anonymous. Um, appreciate it.
But yes, after I said that, suddenly a lot of you started subscribing to awful and awesome, but before that, not many people, they were
Rajyasree: like, you would learn that kind of, uh, when dad say, if you don't do this, then I won't. I'll take away. You won't get ice cream for the week, then you start doing it.
Abhinandan: So via ice cream.
We ice cream. See, that's frivolous. Had you actually believe that this show provides serious journalism? You said via are the
Rajyasree: what? The [00:41:00] maka
Abhinandan: that you had. Do both, you say do both. How do you call it in Bengal? Do both. I don't know what
Rajyasree: the
Abhinandan: s now it's s No,
Rajyasree: it's
Abhinandan: do booth. Okay. So Ashi said. But yeah, thank you so much.
Here's a QR code. Again, those of you haven't subscribed.
Rajyasree: Tell your friends also.
Abhinandan: Yeah, please tell your friends. Subscribe. It's not very much, it's less than what you would spend on probably, you know, film
Rajyasree: ticket,
Abhinandan: not even a film ticket on one non-alcoholic beverage. You'll be spending this much
Rajyasree: non-alcoholic.
Abhinandan: So now tell me documentary Flintoff, before you tell us about the credits, who made it with cinematography. I hope you'll tell us that. Of course. Can you tell me why you find out? Why did you choose it? I'll find that out, but bef meanwhile, you'll tell you why did you choose it?
Rajyasree: Because I am interested in, uh, Freddie Flintoff, Andrew Flintoff.
So I used to, I don't follow cricket, but I like, I think it should be, you should have, [00:42:00] be aware. So he was one this very well known English cricketer. He was a very, he was almost like a prodigy in the sense that he was, but a lot of, uh, sports style start off very young. He was also very good looking. And after his, uh, cricket career sort of started taking a downturn, he joined Top Young Top Gear.
Yeah, top gear. And he had this horrible accident, which I remember where his face got ripped off
Abhinandan: the cricketers.
Rajyasree: The cricketers Flintoff, Freddie Flintoff. Oh. So he was one of the top, top gear presenters. Okay. Like he was really popular and he was very good at, so an auto
Abhinandan: accident. He had a horrible accident.
Okay. Yeah. So he
Rajyasree: was driving one of their cars and the car turns. So you see a bit of the footage and he explains it also. He says, uh, I realized that there were two ways I could fall, so I could [00:43:00] fall on my head, but then maybe I have a hemorrhage or something. Concussion. And a hemorrhage or on his face.
Song: Yeah.
Rajyasree: Or I could fall face down. And he fell face down. But the car pulled him, like by the time it stopped. Mm. Anyway, his face basically pretty much came off. Mm. And Keith. Such a good looking man to, so for around a year you didn't see Freddie Flintoff and then he made
Abhinandan: a comeback. Uh,
Rajyasree: no, he made a public appearance.
He came back as one of the coaches of the cricket team, and then he started presenting again and all. But he's a very young guy. I don't think Freddy Flintoff. So this is directed by John Dower and I will check Freddy's age, but I think he would be, and it's just that when you think that I'm 47, he is my age a little younger.
Uh, when you, it just, I just found it. I find when sports stars and athletes [00:44:00] and all have, even when sma sma, the, we will never see him again because the family has just got a full media embargo, all that. And he's, god knows what state he's in. So even this guy, when it happened. It was so shocking that accident that happened and the fact that it was his face that got so, even like the scars are terrible what you see, and he's had massive recon, like his teeth came out, part of his jaw came out, all that.
So I just found find it fascinating when people go through something so gruesome and brutal mm-hmm. To be able to pull yourself out of it however tough it is and re not even reinvent. He's gone back to quite a few of the things that he was doing, which is coaching, uh, cricket and all.
Abhinandan: That's why. So I guess that's why they made documentary.
So I think it's, again, I'm not giving any value judgment, but I think it's, like you said, it's, uh, it's hard. This is a formula that [00:45:00] really works. Um, someone who is famous at the top of their game, something horrible happens to them and they kind of pull through and recover. So, and because a lot of public.
You know, facing individuals or celebrities, huh? There's a lot of footage available. Like, for example, this story could be true for hundreds of people, but there is no footage of those people, like that whole Tiger King, you know, that thing that went viral. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that story became so, such a major Netflix or whatever it was because there was so much footage of that there, there are many bizarre stories, but there's no footage.
Song: Mm-hmm.
Abhinandan: Like for example, uh, Christopher Reeve. Yeah. You know, same thing. So this whole, um, and I don't mean formula and a frivolous or, uh, in a, in a negative connotation, I just mean it works cinematically and therefore that is being replicated for any celebrity or big sports person who has had a horrible experience, a life altering [00:46:00] experience, and then kind of building up from there.
So this kind of seems to fall into that, that category.
Rajyasree: Also, he. Started documenting his journey, recovery. Recovery from the time he had that accident means once he became a little, he said eye was near depression. And uh, so there's footage of, which is like clearly shot very well, not more than shot very well, as in it's in the doctor's office, right?
It's that kind of stuff. And he's on camera talking because he's the one who's, uh, given the narration, the narration and the access. The other thing that makes it compelling is there are a lot of very well known, not just cricketers, they are, uh, like James Gordon, Jack White, or people who are from the British, uh, this thing, entertainment, uh, sector, who are big celebrities, who are friends of his, who are, so there's a lot of people, like [00:47:00] people talking about a top gear, I think must be having some sort of.
Some legal, this thing where they don't interview anyone from Topia, but the show pretty much stopped the UK one when this happened because it was such a horrific accident that had happened. Hmm. And he also doesn't really trash topia, but he does say that I, I kept pushing myself to, I would do very risky things, but when you're young and Yeah.
But fit, you don't think, are you
Abhinandan: suggesting that they should blame the show for that? I mean,
Rajyasree: they didn't have the safety restrictions in place so that they do see that, that something could go so wrong was not but top gear when you used to watch the way I've seen the one with Matt LeBlanc, where when he used but complete
Abhinandan: that thought, they did not have what,
Rajyasree: they did not have those safety checks done on how this can, uh, go wrong.
Abhinandan: I mean, if you're doing a show about high speed cars, the worst can [00:48:00] happen. Yeah. I mean, that's a given for an even adult. I mean, it's not like I'm just saying that I'm not wearing a seatbelt is carelessness and it should be checked. But not knowing the outcome of a high speed car crash is something that I guess, I mean, anyone would know what, so maybe that that's
Rajyasree: why they don't, uh, he doesn't really trash top gear at all.
And he says, I kept putting, like through my life, I've, I like doing risky things, but that this would happen is not, obviously you don't think that your face is gonna come off and you are not gonna be, so would you
Abhinandan: recommend it or not? Yeah.
Rajyasree: It's a fabulous watch. And anyone who's an who, so it has nothing with
Abhinandan: cricket.
Rajyasree: No, no. It's very little to do with cricket. No, but it has his career because he had a few ups and downs in his career also. But it's a very tight documentary's one or 20 minutes I think. And uh, just also he's a very, um. Like he's one of those people who
Abhinandan: good narrator, he can hold your attention and he holds
Rajyasree: your [00:49:00] attention, which is why he was such a good presenter also, I suppose, in his career.
But, uh, and I've seen him in that show, which I watch, uh, A League of Their Own, which is the British, uh, sports, uh, what is it? Game show, which has Jamie Redna, who you don't think of very highly, but uh, I dunno what is it? Has Jamie, you don't know who he is. Jamie Redna, Louis Red Knapps son, whatever that Redna son is.
Abhinandan: Beam Sing. Val, how you know? I do. How do
Rajyasree: I know? Because you've told me his father was an ass and he's only become a full follower because his father name my life. Harry Red Knapp. I never heard this person. You don't know Harry Redna the football.
Abhinandan: Oh, this guy? Yeah. I know who he is, but I didn't say anything about his son.
You, you forgot him. You did. Yes. I have never said any. You
Song: have.
Abhinandan: I know what I said. Anyway. So on that note, we will, uh, bind up the other emails. Uh, one is from Gman. By the way, we only [00:50:00] entertain the emails of subscribers. So you can mail us@podcastsatnewsone.com. Repeat podcasts. Mm-hmm. At newsone.com. Uh, and you can tell us what you like, dislike, what we should do differently or not do differently.
Or give recommendations like some for wonderful subscribers give to enrich the lives of the rest. Because clearly I cannot give many recommendations 'cause I don't discover anything. Goman says, if I'm not mistaken, there are gamers in your midst. Yes, correct. Uh, I dunno what gamers, but there is one hardcore, like, um, what's the word I'm looking for?
Uh, hardcore gamer.
Rajyasree: Is
Abhinandan: that the word you're looking? Shadu is a gamer
Rajyasree: and he's come on the show to discuss, uh, one of these video
Abhinandan: games have the capacity to be profound with the variety of settings they're in. Like a capitalist dystopia, modern warfare, medieval fantasy. They're able to explore a range of stories where you are basically enacting a firsthand account.
What I'm trying to say is talk about [00:51:00] video games too. A video game is just as much art as a movie, TV show or book. Yes. In fact, Shaul has said this fanatic, that's the word I'm looking for. Fanatic. He's a fan gaming fanatic. Yes, I agree with you, Goman. It's just that I think I'm past the age where can hold my attention.
Um, even the most basic games can't hold my attention, but maybe we should have some younger people to review games here. But do you know, uh, Rashan, the gaming industry in the worldwide is, I'll just pull out the numbers, but it is way bigger than Hollywood.
Rajyasree: Yeah, so I have, uh, my only insights into gaming are that, uh, it's, you should not play those video games, you know, where people from all over the world play because there are all sorts of stalkers and oph files.
And also I have a very grim view of everything. But, uh, did you play a Prince of Persia when you were young?
Abhinandan: Yeah, I played that one where you had to do one he leaves, then picks [00:52:00] up the sword, usually very boring games. Then Rohini says, just wanna write and then tell you guys that your podcast has kept me sane and happy for the past two months while I've been living alone in a foreign country away from friends, family, and all things familiar.
I think I made my way through over 50 episodes in this time and felt like I always had a familiar voice in my ear through a fairly lonely period. Johanni, I'm glad Nutters like us have kept, we've been your dodgy
Rajyasree: friend.
Abhinandan: We've been your dodgy friends, keeping you sane, but. Do spend some time in silence.
Also, let your thoughts do their thing even if they're disturbing. Some very good and creative stuff comes out of loneliness. I can tell you from experience. So you must subject yourself to some loneliness. It's very good for you.
Rajyasree: B Krishna was saying this one, what they created Ang loneliness. That idea must to come.
Let's create something that this keeps saying. Rahini [00:53:00] how this you
Abhinandan: ra and you can read other two RA
Rajyasree: he has written. Dear Ab and Rahi, love your friend. Carefree Banter. March needed in today's crazy depressing times. I've a query. We're not sure if it is displeased to be discussed in ENE. I'm. Millennial bit old school and grew up listening to Hindi film songs, old and new, and for me, song lyrics would get automatically memorized without the need of writing.
Same from around 2010 onwards, though I have noticed a drastic drop in volume and quality, probably less than half a dozen memorable songs over a decade. True that we need to move on, move with the Times, but I feel there's still an audience for such music. So would like to understand from you, why doesn't the industry address this emotional void?
Why not capitalize on this unique musical feature of Hindi or broadly Indian music movies? Isn't there any tangible benefit to the industry anymore with [00:54:00] cassettes and CDs?
Abhinandan: So Rki, I haven't really done a deep dive on this, but I mean, I have some experience in the entertainment industry. Um, music rights were a very big part of the revenue that a film used to earn, at least in India.
Now it's not so much that as a revenue generator as it is, it gives the movie buzz. It is a great publicity or a marketing device rather than a revenue center, which is why I think the kind of attention given to music, in fact. We recommended it here or in hafta. Uh, there was a piece I forget, in which magazine in which, um, platform where the prescribed musical Ar MI think had said, or someone that directors say that give us a 32nd catchy bit or 22nd catchy bit.
They're not even looking at a really long, catchy song. Okay, not sure you say, because that will [00:55:00] create buzz on Insta this 10, 20, 30 second, and that will generate two buzz about the film. So the song for the song's sake. Is, I think gone in just how the entire economic model is structured Now, that's my understanding.
Could be wrong.
Rajyasree: Yes. Why Pri still making music for the new, the new Life in a metro. Uh, not new. The sequel is gonna be out. Uh, Ishi has written, I fully support AB in ignoring the films and shows because now every Tom, Dick and Harry is somehow making one. I recently watched The Royals on Netflix and I have been cursing myself around the moment I finish watching it.
I think Zina Thaman is trying to fit in, which is horrible. The whole series is seen from the sex point of view and there's no proper story. I have canceled my Netflix subscription because it is just a waste of money. Now it is a very extreme, I must say, canceled the thing in episode 3 86. Je she compared after Christian Beat.
I [00:56:00] didn't compare. I said he's supposed to be the Christian bill character and my years are bleeding. Now how can you do this strategy if you also, he is given me a tip, culinary trip. Huh? This I know, but, huh. If you can't find Sean Masala, try National Masala.
Song: Hmm. This is
Rajyasree: true. So I'll also tell you, national Masala doesn't have the ity of sha, although both are from Pakistan.
Abhinandan: Okay.
Rajyasree: Okay. And so Smitha recently got cornered when she said, there are no borders for artists.
Abhinandan: I, you
Rajyasree: would know so many things you're saying. Uh, what is your take on that?
Abhinandan: I mean, it's, that line doesn't really mean anything. In my view is as, of course, there are borders for artists, but who's consuming?
There are, there are no borders. But I mean, in what context?
Rajyasree: It must be in this India, Pakistan. Yeah, but
Abhinandan: they need visas. I mean, it's complicated. I, I don't wanna get into it right now, but it's, it's a line that doesn't really mean anything specific, stripped of context. [00:57:00] One more pop song from the eighties, please.
I'm choking
Rajyasree: so I can't say this.
Abhinandan: Hmm.
Rajyasree: One more pop song.
Abhinandan: One more pop song from the eighties. Okay. I'll give you when we are ending this podcast. Have
Rajyasree: a wonderful time ahead. We were till that one more pop song from the eighties started. Mm. Do you like that song? It's not from the eighties. It's, uh, a whole old, old Hindi film song.
Mm.
No. I can sing it.
Abhinandan: The audience wants you to Please do. But I've heard you sing, so I I do You
Rajyasree: like that song from Saga Sari?
Abhinandan: Yeah, I like it.
Rajyasree: Okay. I can sing that also. No, but
Abhinandan: I don't think Aja asked you to sing this song.
Rajyasree: Okay. Then you just, you can, you can recommend whatever you want.
Abhinandan: No, uh, just next time I sing a song, but today actually had come wanting to prepared, um, yeah.
Prepared because I hadn't watched anything. I said, I must come with something. So this lovely Punjabi song, it's [00:58:00] not two that I had kind of stumbled upon, uh, which I really liked and I've been listening to On Loop for a long time. Again, the problem with this, a lot of these songs is that they're, um, misogynist.
Yeah, they are slightly. Yeah, they are. But, but they just have, I just, I love the vibe. I love the mood. It's called Pat Flow. Uh, and this is what it sounds like.
You know what I, I call Punjabi music, sang
Rajyasree: this Karala
Abhinandan: No Perish Verma and
Rajyasree: Oh wow.
Abhinandan: I'm. I just love the self-confidence in Punjabi music. You know, they, it's like I don't give a shit. They're just so, just so self-confident.[00:59:00]
And they have a, it sounds
Rajyasree: like a string of
Abhinandan: abusers and No it's not. And they use English words, very liberally, sad dominance. They kick, oh,
Rajyasree: it is a dominance.
Abhinandan: So it sounds like Punjabi, but there's a lot of English also. But
Rajyasree: what, but what did these two lines mean?
Abhinandan: That basically we roll our mustaches, we establish dominance.
Usual shit, you know, nothing of nothing. I love
Rajyasree: Punjabi, man.
Abhinandan: It's the same shit. It's
Rajyasree: so classy.
Abhinandan: It's every song is saying the same shit.
Rajyasree: Bcha
Abhinandan: is Punjabi. First of all, do not throw in BHA with all these people. BHA is a, yeah, he's basically, if you're talking about Sa Al or you know, and then you say, can we also talk about, um, who I, I don't know.
Uh, tu uh, no, some other, you know, some to tell. This is from that guy who, I forgot his name. He keeps giving these basic, yeah, so [01:00:00] that is Bcha is not in this league for Bollywood. Punjabi chat,
Rajyasree: these guys.
Abhinandan: Like really good Punjabi music so that it's called okay. On that not we must thank our audience, those who are subscribing and contributing.
Yes. To pay Toki News free. We must thank a sound recordist Anil. Uh, we must thank our producer Pali, uh, and we must thank, uh, Rohini who has given us so much of confidence that. No matter what our level of sanity we are helping others remain in. Yeah,
Rajyasree: it's questionable.
Abhinandan: As is Ji
Rajyasree: It's, I it's okay. As long as someone is getting some happiness from us, that is what matters.
That's the
Abhinandan: beauty rush beauty. She,
Rajyasree: she sweet. She has,
Abhinandan: she, she, she, she. That's a good one. You should call yourself Si [01:01:00]
Rajyasree: Si. Yeah. So that I get Lynch lynched outside by some. Thank
Abhinandan: you, Mr.
Rajyasree: Thank you, Mr. Sikri.
Abhinandan: And it's a rep.
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