Tim Wilson on teals: ‘No one actually takes this party seriously’
Over on the other side of the political debate, the shadow treasurer, Tim Wilson, has shut down the idea of Liberal moderates joining a potential teal party.
Speaking to Nine earlier this morning, the moderate – who won his seat back from the teal independent Zoe Daniel at the last election – said no one would take the group seriously.
His colleague Jane Hume, a fellow moderate, said that the teals have acted as a party for a while, with the same funding and same campaign teams (“if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck”… she said).
Wilson said:
I don’t think there’s any chance of that because I think no one actually takes this party seriously. It’s about them achieving their own survival, not the good of the nation.
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Were the teal party conversations sparked by the government’s electoral reforms?
Yes and no, Allegra Spender and Zali Steggall say.
Earlier on RN Breakfast, Steggall said that she had a “showdown” with the special minister of state, Don Farrell, over the changes, which she said were “rigged” towards the major parties.
She said that the changes forced her to look at the “setup and the disadvantage there is in being a community independent versus [being a] a major party”.
There are many things that favour major party structures, and again, the public was incredibly cynical about that move, that it’s yet again major parties trying to rig the game for their benefit.
Spender said that it was a factor in the discussions but that the talks are “beyond just campaign financing”.
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Spender confirms teal party conversations
Both Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender have fronted up to the media this morning to confirm conversations are taking place for a potential teal party, but both aren’t promising anything and say there’s nothing yet to announce.
Spender has joined ABC Radio Sydney, saying that people have come up to her saying they’re worried about the political landscape and want to see change.
She’s asked whether the discussion was sparked by changes to electoral donation laws that benefit parties over independents, and says that the changes were a consideration but the idea goes beyond just that.
She adds that things might look a little different in their corner compared to other established parties.
I have had conversations over a period of time about how politics could evolve because people keep on coming to me and say they really worried about the times that we’re in.
The question is: look, are there ways to better collaborate to evolve and how we work together or how some of us work together so that we can more explicitly align on certain areas and then where our communities and where we fundamentally disagree to have that freedom.
I don’t think people want a party like we’ve seen it with the sort of major parties. I think if any evolution [it] wants to be something quite different.
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Menopause national awareness campaign launches
A nation-first campaign to spread awareness about the symptoms of menopause and perimenopause will launch today.
The federal government campaign, which will run to the end of the year, is designed to lift the lid on how women experience symptoms and direct them to health information and treatment options.
The campaign is the result of a Senate inquiry in 2024, which found many women entered this stage of life lacking information about the impact of symptoms and where to get help.
The women’s minister, Katy Gallagher, said:
Menopause should not come as a surprise, but for too long silence and stigma have left too many women in the dark ... It is important that this campaign reflects the different experiences of perimenopause and menopause, because no two women experience it the same way, and every woman deserves to feel seen and supported.
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‘They have learnt nothing’: Steggall criticises Abbott’s appointment as Liberal party president
Zali Steggall says the public wants rational policies not “culture wars”, criticising Tony Abbott’s impending appointment as Liberal party president.
Abbott was the only nominee for the presidency after the other contender – former foreign minister Alexander Downer – chose to instead run for one of the vice-president’s positions.
Steggall tells RN Breakfast says the appointment shows the party has “learned nothing”.
The Australian public, the sensible public, wants rational policies. They don’t want culture wars. They don’t want blame game. They want something constructive.
The Coalition currently wants to repeal net zero, which means taking Australia out of the Paris agreement … They want to blame migrants who have actually built Australia …
The divisiveness is toxic, putting Tony Abbott in charge just shows they have learned nothing.
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‘There are conversations’, Steggall confirms independents in talks
One of the MPs at the centre of the teal party whispers, Zali Steggall, has confirmed to the ABC’s RN Breakfast that there are conversations going on between the group of independents on forming a party.
Steggall says the discussions are looking at how they can work in a “collaborative way to be more effective in holding government to account”
Steggall ousted former Liberal prime minister, Tony Abbott in 2019 in the Sydney seat of Warringah.
The independent says that she’s considering different options but warns that not all the speculation in the media is correct – ruling out that she’s had conversations with other Liberals.
There are conversations [with independents]. That’s about all I can say at this point … I’ve worked with my fellow members on the crossbench a lot across both houses, the Senate and the House. And I can really see how we find efficiencies, we work together in supporting one another.
I’ve had discussions with David [Pocock], as I have with many others. Only independents, though, speculation about discussions with Liberals … I certainly have not had those discussions.
Steggall also says that she’s spoken to Malcolm Turnbull during her time as a parliamentarian, but not about this potential venture.
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Wong departs for Quad meeting in India
Penny Wong will head to India today to meet with foreign ministers from India, Japan and the United States for the third Quad meeting in 18 months.
It’s expected energy security will be among the hot topics the four countries discuss amid the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.
The foreign minister noted the Quad partnership was “vital” in “uncertain times”.
She said:
The Albanese government will continue to strengthen Australia’s relationships and work even harder in new and existing coalitions like the Quad as we keep building Australia’s future in an ever less stable world.
At the last meeting in July 2025, the countries agreed to work together to diversify the global supply of critical minerals in response to concerns about China’s market dominance.
‘If it walks like a duck …’ Hume calls teal party the worst kept secret in Canberra
The Liberal deputy leader, Jane Hume, says that the teals in party talks has been the “worst-kept secret” in Canberra, arguing the group have acted like a party for a while.
She tells Sky News the move would be good for Labor and the Greens because the teals vote with them “70% of the time”.
Indulge me for a second to bring you some facts on this. It’s a claim the Coalition have made a lot, particularly during the last parliament and during the 2025 election campaign.
If you want to see how often the community independents actually voted with Labor or the Greens versus the Coalition – have a read of this very in depth fact check by my colleague, Nick Evershed:
Now back to Hume:
This is probably the worst-kept secret in Canberra, isn’t it? For a number of years, we’ve been saying that if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. The teals have been a party since they began. They’ve had the same funding sources, they’ve had the same campaign teams, they’ve worn the same colours, but worse than that, they had the same slogan, and the slogan was about integrity, and that integrity has now simply been gone out the window.
Hume is asked whether she has been approached to join the new party, she says “absolutely not” and adds:
I think changing political parties is a little bit like changing football teams. I can’t understand why people would even consider it.
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Treatment of Australians by Israeli forces and minister ‘disgraceful’: Butler
The health minister, Mark Butler, says the government has raised “in the strongest possible way” its concerns with the Israeli government over the treatment of Australian and international activists detained by Israel after their flotilla was intercepted in international waters.
He singled out Israeli minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir who was condemned internationally after posting a video of himself abusing the activists captured.
Butler told the ABC:
We have [raised these issues] in the strongest possible terms, both in Israel itself, but also with the Israeli ambassador to Australia here in Canberra.
The treatment of those Australians and people from many other countries as well has been disgraceful, particularly the behaviour of Minister Ben Gvir. We’ve raised our concerns in the strongest possible way. We’re really glad that the Australians are starting now to return home and reunite with their families, but this has been a particularly concerning event.
Teal party speculation ‘not a surprise’ says cabinet minister
Mark Butler says he’s not surprised to see speculation that the community teal independents could form a party – with the political spectrum in “flux” right now.
Speaking to ABC’s News Breakfast this morning, the health minister says (rather unsurprisingly) that it’s “a matter for them”.
There’s speculation this morning that Allegra Spender and Zali Steggall could be leading talks for a grouping of the independents. Independent senator David Pocock yesterday said he was open to a party forming to help counter One Nation.
Butler says:
They’ve [teal independents] obviously made inroads in particular communities in Australia. They’ll make their own assessment about whether that works for them.
There obviously is a lot of flux in the non-Labor parts of politics right now, so to see speculation like that’s perhaps not a surprise.
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Welcome
Good morning, Krishani Dhanji with you for a busy sitting week ahead.
There’s lots on the agenda this week; the government is working on implementing its budget promises, which could see changes to capital gains tax discounts after widespread backlash from industry and investor groups.
The teal independents could band together to form a new party, says David Pocock. There are whispers conversations are happening behind the scenes – reportedly led by Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender – and that a new party could push back against the growing influence of One Nation.
Australian activists on board the latest Gaza flotilla are returning home after being detained in Israel. The group have alleged mistreatment and abuse by Israeli forces.
And it’s Senate estimates this week, which means department officials will face a grilling from pollies – and we’ll be watching eagerly. We’ll bring you all the juicy details as they come.
