We've all heard the saying: "it's grim up North".
Here at ChronicleLive, as we launch our new County Durham Live and Sunderland Live sites, we've been having a think about how much truth there is in it.
So we had a long, hard look at Durham to see if we could find any proof - and it turns out there's lots.
From its drab city centre to its bleak surrounding areas, there's really not much to like about the place.
Here are 17 reasons why Durham proves our region is naff:
1. First of all, there's this eyesore
2. No matter the time of day...

3. ...it looks dreadful

4. And then there's the small matter of its neighbour

5. Shabby

6. There's nothing to see in the city centre...

7. ...and no where to eat or drink

8. Then there's that awful coast
9. It photographs terribly

10. The countryside isn't worth the drive either

11. Average

12. It's soooooooo quiet

13. Nothing at all happens

14. Ever

15. So, aye, it's grim

16. Really, really grim

17. Nothing to see here
