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Have any football managers won two or more continental championships?

Ange Postecoglu with his Australia Under-20 side in 2001
Ange Postecoglou won six OFC championships at youth level before coaching Australia to victory in the 2015 Asian Cup. Photograph: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

“Roberto Mancini has the opportunity to win the AFC Asian Cup with Saudi Arabia, having won Euro 2020,” notes Teng Kiat. “Has any coach won two or more different continental championships (including the corresponding women’s tournaments)?”

Roberto Mancini’s quest for cross-continent glory begins when Saudi Arabia face Oman next Tuesday. If they go the distance Mancini will be the first coach to win the European Championship and Asian Cup, though he wouldn’t be the first to win two continental championships.

Carlos Alberto Parreira has already done what Mancini’s trying to do, and with the same country no less (Saudi Arabia, not Italy),” writes Ravi Hiranand. “Parreira won the Asian Cup with Kuwait in 1980 and Saudi Arabia in 1988 before winning the Copa América with Brazil in 2004. (He also rather famously won the World Cup in 1994, but nobody asked.)”

Carlos Alberto Parreira talks to Brazil players during the Copa América in 2004
Carlos Alberto Parreira (right) won the Copa América with Brazil in 2004. Photograph: Antonio Scorza/AFP/Getty Images

He also won the Cosafa Cup with South Africa in 2007. That tournament is purely for teams from Southern Africa so it probably counts as regional rather than continental, but it allows us to post this pretty tweet.

Opeyemi Ajala and Dirk Maas were among those who pointed out that Roger Lemerre became the first member of this niche club on 14 February 2004, five months before Parreira, when Tunisia beat Morocco 2-1 in the Afcon final. Lemerre was also the coach of France when they swaggered (and occasionally stumbled) to glory at Euro 2000.

Roger Lemerre celebrates after winning Euro 2000 as France coach
Roger Lemerre celebrates after winning Euro 2000 as France coach. Photograph: Popperfoto/Getty Images

There has been at least one case in women’s football, made possible by Australia’s decision to join the Asian Football Confederation in 2006.

And it has happened in club football too.

As with Carlos Alberto Parreira and the Cosafa Cup, the validity of the next answer depends on your definition of continental championship. “Winfried Schäfer won the Africa Cup of Nations with Cameroon in 2002,” writes adds Florian Camphausen. “He also won the Caribbean Cup with Jamaica in 2014. This is the championship for nations in the Caribbean Football Union, a subgroup of Concacaf. At club level, he won the Uefa Intertoto Cup with Karlsruher SC in 1996. It’s not the most prestigious competition. Still, he won continental cups on three different continents and was runner-up in a fourth.”

Marc Harrison has taken an even deeper dive into this question. “Ange Postecoglou has tasted international success on two continents, although his first titles came at youth level. He coached the young Socceroos to six OFC championships, three at U17 and three at U20, before leading the men’s senior team to Asian Cup glory on home soil in 2015. Several managers have an Arabian Gulf Cup, a regional tournament dating back to 1970, alongside a continental trophy. Mário Zagallo (1976, Copa América), Claude Le Roy (2009, Afcon 1988), Djamel Belmadi (2014, plus Afcon 2019).”

Finally, as Marc points out, Mancini isn’t the only manager looking for his second continental championship. “South Korea’s Jürgen Klinsmann will be looking to add Asian Cup success to his 2013 Concacaf Gold Cup triumph [with the USA], while Bahrain’s Juan Antonio Pizzi will be looking to repeat Chile’s 2016 Copa América win.”

Quickest revenge/returning hero hat-trick

“Chris Wood scored a hat-trick at St James’ Park just under a year after being sold by Newcastle to Nottingham Forest. What’s the shortest period of time in which a former a player has returned to their former club and scored a hat-trick?” wonders Masai Graham.

When Chris Wood scored an outstanding hat-trick against his old club on Boxing Day, he was a model of restraint after each goal. A couple of years ago, another Chris adopted a less dignified approach.

Chris Maguire left Sunderland on 30 June 2021 when his contract expired,” writes Phil Boyle. “On 11 January 2022 he scored a hat-trick for Lincoln at the Stadium of Light, celebrating the third in the face of then-Sunderland manager Lee Johnson, who was later sent off.”

Maguire scored more goals in one match against Sunderland than he did in his other 38 games for Lincoln. He has since moved on, though at least the Lincoln manager doesn’t have to worry about revenge: Maguire is now at Eastleigh in the National League.

Josh King probably wasn’t quite as intent on revenge when he returned to Goodison Park in October 2021, but he did bite the hand that once fed him even more quickly than Maguire.

“King left Everton following an unsuccessful loan spell at the end of the 2020-21 season,” writes Dan Kelly. “He returned to Goodison four-and-a-half months later with Watford and scored a hat-trick in a 5-2 victory. I’d be surprised if there were any quicker than that. As an Everton fan, it was painfully poetic.”

Starting several players down

“In Indonesian Liga 3, Sukur FC started their match against Josal FC with only seven players because the college students that compose the team are having exams on the day of the match,” Taufiq A Utomo tells us. “Have there been other cases where teams start with less than 11 players?”

Jeremy Simmonds was the first out of the blocks on this one. “I’m sure it must’ve happened at a higher level,” he writes, “but the question immediately brought to mind the tale of Cornish Mining League whipping boys Madron FC.

“Back in 2010, the plucky side conceded 227 goals in their first 10 games, capped off by a staggering 55-0 defeat to Illogan Reserves – heaven knows what their first XI might’ve done – in which they could only muster seven players to start the game.

“Despite further defeats of 27-1 and 26-0 that season, just a year later Madron actually started losing by ‘respectable’ scores and even won a game. There’s a spirited little doc about the team here. It’d be interesting to learn whether they’re still going.”

Alas, they’re not, but they certainly left an impression.

Azrie Mir has another example, though we hesitate to call it more high profile given Madron’s unlikely fame.

Knowledge archive

“According to this excellent website there was an FA Cup third-and-fourth-place playoff staged in 1970-71 between Everton and Stoke,” wrote Tom Moore in May 2009. “I never knew these games existed. Were they played every season and when were they introduced/scrapped?”

They were played every season from 1970, Tom, but only for five years after proving unpopular with players and fans. The FA even experimented with holding the game in August – shortly before the beginning of the following season – in 1972 and 1973, but this failed to win over the doubters, and the last such playoff was played between Burnley and Leicester City on 9 May 1974, with the Clarets winning 1-0.

The playoff did produce one significant first, however. Birmingham’s victory on penalties after a 0-0 draw against Stoke on 5 August 1972 was the first time any FA Cup tie had been decided on spot-kicks.

Can you help?

“My team, Southampton, are due to play Leeds on the last day of the current Championship regular season. Both are currently in the playoffs, so it’s possible they could play one another in three consecutive games (one in the league, two in the playoff semi-finals). Are there longer strings of consecutive fixtures between the same sides beyond three games?” wonders Rupert Sheard.

“In the FA Cup third round, a club from every London area still in the draw played at home: AFC Wimbledon, Arsenal, Brentford, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Millwall, Queens Park Rangers, Tottenham and West Ham United. (Gillingham, Luton and Watford are also drawn at home.) Has there ever been a draw where more London-area clubs had home advantage?” asks Terry Monks.

“Sheffield Wednesday’s Cameron Dawson saved two penalties in the first seven minutes of their 4-0 win against Cardiff in the FA Cup third round on Saturday. There were three minutes between the two saves. Excluding retakes and shootouts, is that a record?” asks Terry Henfleet.

“Although his contract at Leeds was for just four matches, Sam Allardyce’s short service may have been the most costly ever having earned just a single point with one draw and three losses at a cost of £500,000. Is half a million pounds per point the worst ROI for any managerial hire?” muses Phil Freeman.

“Has the result of a match ever resulted in the managers of both clubs involved being sacked afterwards? If so, which was the most recent?” poses Anthony Ramm.

“What is the highest xG chance that wasn’t scored, and what’s the lowest that did lead to a goal?” asks Nick Jones.

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